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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 8 Jan 09:50
How do Americans vote this guy in?
Wanting to takeover Greenland and the Panama Canal, by force if necessary.
Rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
And as for the Middle East, God help us!
My 80yr old Auntie (born and raised in Scotland) now living in Baltimore is a Trump fanatic, absolutely batsh*t for brains!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Jan 10:33
I don`t think foreign policy ranks very highly in the average American voter`s list of priorities. Their main concern is the size of their bank balance. Recent interventions by the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg don`t bode well for the next four years either.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 8 Jan 10:34
I don`t wish this to sound disrespectful or as a joke, but he may have diminished mental capacity. What`s worrying is the policy teams around him aren`t intervening.
The rhetoric from Trump isn`t much different to the crap we heard during brexit and we still hear from idiots like Farage. There`s a genuine debate to be had about asylum and immigration but all they want to do is drop little soundbites to excite the ignorant. They don`t have a plan to reduce asylum claims or to ensure high quality migrants.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 8 Jan 12:36
I think what’s more worrying is the power and influence we’ve all given people like musk… and his ability with very little effort to impact our democracy
Edited to say that wee eck flagged social media owners above
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 8 Jan 18:36
Quote:
DBP, Wed 8 Jan 12:36
I think what’s more worrying is the power and influence we’ve all given people like musk… and his ability with very little effort to impact our democracy
Edited to say that wee eck flagged social media owners above
Where do you drew the line? Members of both the Scottish and Westminster parliaments went over campaigning for the Democrats , will that backfire on British politics with the money available to Musk .
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 8 Jan 18:49
Eh?
I’m talking about technocrats having way too much power to influence people and stir up / set the narrative of our parliament
I couldn’t care less about trump
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 8 Jan 18:53
Quote:
DBP, Wed 8 Jan 18:49
Eh?
I’m talking about technocrats having way too much power to influence people and stir up / set the narrative of our parliament
I couldn’t care less about trump
Reworded my post while you were posting
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 8 Jan 19:03
Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.
This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.
His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Wed 8 Jan 20:47
‘Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.’
Elon Musk runs dafc.net?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 8 Jan 22:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 8 Jan 19:03
Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.
This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.
His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.
I think you underestimate the idiocy of people in the UK. They voted for Brexit based on a lie on the side of a bus
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 8 Jan 23:11
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 8 Jan 22:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 8 Jan 19:03
Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.
This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.
His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.
I think you underestimate the idiocy of people in the UK. They voted for Brexit based on a lie on the side of a bus
Then there`s fact they wouldn`t need a majority.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 9 Jan 06:23
He’s already in our politics, he just needs to post a few things on his platform and it sets the agenda over here, eg what is everyone talking about (again) this last week?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 9 Jan 08:04
Quote:
DBP, Thu 9 Jan 06:23
He’s already in our politics, he just needs to post a few things on his platform and it sets the agenda over here, eg what is everyone talking about (again) this last week?
It`s not just Musk though. I recently ended up with TikTok on my phone ("thanks" Samsung). I don`t have an account but I went in and scrolled through my "For you" videos. Not going to lie that almost every video was propaganda against asylum seekers and Muslims. Not signed up, freshly opened. All they presumably know is my location and device.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 9 Jan 13:07
That`s because TikTok knows the real , racist, bigoted, far right Jake89 that you do so well to conceal most of the time.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 9 Jan 14:18
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 9 Jan 13:07
That`s because TikTok knows the real , racist, bigoted, far right Jake89 that you do so well to conceal most of the time.
Wash your mouth out. Nuffink wrong wiv loving my country! My granddad didn`t fight in two world wars etc etc.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Thu 9 Jan 15:01
Jake, whether you agree with them or not, they are entitled to have their own opinion and follow what they think is best for them. As you do.
No need for the p*** taking.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Jan 15:27
It`s hard to know what exactly Musk`s motive is and the FT have been investigating.
`According to the Financial Times, he’s serious. Anna Gross and Joe Miller report that Musk has “privately discussed with allies how Sir Keir Starmer could be removed as UK prime minister before the next general election, according to people briefed on the matter”. In their story, Gross and Miller say:
Musk, the world’s richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said.
“His view is that western civilisation itself is threatened,” one of the people added.
Musk has sought information about whether it might be possible to build support for alternative British political movements — notably the rightwing populist Reform UK party — to force a change of prime minister before the next election, according to associates.`
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 9 Jan 15:40
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 9 Jan 15:27
It`s hard to know what exactly Musk`s motive is and the FT have been investigating.
The Online Safety Act, coming in in a couple of months, and the threat of being fined 10% of global turnover might have something to do with it.
I think there be something similar in the EU on the horizon as well but with bigger fines.
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Post Edited (Thu 09 Jan 15:42)
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 9 Jan 17:34
Carter should have never given up joint control of the Panama canal.
The US has bases on Greenland and control the defense of it`s entire North coast.
I think the 55k of people who inhabit will vote for independence from Denmark and the US will make the people an offer they can`t, and don`t want to refuse.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 9 Jan 19:19
[Post Deleted] - Request to remove
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Thu 9 Jan 21:44
After decades of seemingly constant improvements in living standards and lifestyles I wonder what effect the global financial crisis and the CoVid pandemic have had on people’s mindsets.
I suspect that there are many people who are not enjoying the wealth or health they had expected and are looking for someone to blame, making them prey to Nationalist and Populist agendas.
Throw in a deal of ignorance, and the rise of social media where algorithms will feed you a constant stream of bite-size chunks of prejudice reaffirming falsehoods and this is where you can end up.
One of the many disappointing things about Trump’s ascent is it appears to be the antithesis pf the American dream where hard work and talent can bring success. In his case, he seems to have succeeded despite having a very narrow education and an absence of moral rectitude, due to a combination of inherited wealth and abuse of power, helped no doubt by acolytes who would seemingly sell their souls to do his bidding.
Another frustration is the way the commentariat has been so wrong about him so often – he wasn’t going to run for president, he wasn’t going to win the nomination, he didn’t really want to be president anyway, he couldn’t win, he wouldn’t run again, America wouldn’t elect a felon, the polls were wrong, he would lose the swing states and so on.
Not sure what Musk`s doing though. They can`t both be King.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 10 Jan 16:06
Sentenced today. No fine and no jail time but has a criminal record for 34 convictions. He is, of course, appealing this. He’s already been on
Truth Social whining to his supporters that it was all a witch hunt.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 10 Jan 16:36
Could a USA President literally get away with murder?
Our politicians do have certain privileges but they can only pardon themselves for inappropriate wind breaking!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 10 Jan 17:17
Does his appeal go to the Supreme Court which is stacked with Republicans?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 10 Jan 17:23
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 10 Jan 17:17
Does his appeal go to the Supreme Court which is stacked with Republicans?
I don’t think he has the full support of every Republican Senator though.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 10 Jan 17:55
I thought the Supreme Court comprised 9 judges and 6 of them were nominated by Republican Presidents?
It doesn`t seem certain that he will appeal though.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 10 Jan 18:36
Can he not just pardon himself?
Or declare them null and void in some and have them struck off
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 10 Jan 18:52
I don`t think he can pardon himself because the case was brought by NY rather than being a Federal one.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:17
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Thu 9 Jan 17:34
Carter should have never given up joint control of the Panama canal.
The US has bases on Greenland and control the defense of it`s entire North coast.
I think the 55k of people who inhabit will vote for independence from Denmark and the US will make the people an offer they can`t, and don`t want to refuse.
I think you are right this time.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 23:47
Musk says in his speech, "We are going to have sensible spending."
Then, in the next sentence, he says, "And we are going to Mars.
Sensible spending to American "Christians" means cutting Medicare and social assistance to enable Musk to go to Mars.
Well. I would love to be a fly on the wall on judgement day.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 22 Jan 08:24
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 23:47
Musk says in his speech, "We are going to have sensible spending."
Then, in the next sentence, he says, "And we are going to Mars.
Sensible spending to American "Christians" means cutting Medicare and social assistance to enable Musk to go to Mars.
Well. I would love to be a fly on the wall on judgement day.
Sarah Connor stopped Judgement Day in Terminator 2. Although subsequent films showed she merely delayed it, it has yet to happen. One can only assume that in the new Terminator films they`ll yet again defeat Skynet.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 22 Jan 11:00
Quote:
jake89, Wed 22 Jan 08:24
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 23:47
Musk says in his speech, "We are going to have sensible spending."
Then, in the next sentence, he says, "And we are going to Mars.
Sensible spending to American "Christians" means cutting Medicare and social assistance to enable Musk to go to Mars.
Well. I would love to be a fly on the wall on judgement day.
Sarah Connor stopped Judgement Day in Terminator 2. Although subsequent films showed she merely delayed it, it has yet to happen. One can only assume that in the new Terminator films they`ll yet again defeat Skynet.
I see Musk as more of a Bond villain.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 30 Jan 19:33
Trump has declared the cause of the air crash over the Potomac River was the result of the Democrats applying diversity rules in recruiting people for Air Traffic Control, some of whom were not qualified for their jobs. Needless to say there is no evidence to support this.
The guy has absolutely no class at all.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 30 Jan 22:18
And he knows this because he has common sense…..🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ a classless buffoon in control of one of the world’s superpowers.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 31 Jan 01:08
Yet there were no crashes under Biden’s tenure but one under his.
He is a disgrace of a man. He should be leading, not lying, to the American people, and he should have been showing sympathy to the families of those who lost their lives.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Fri 31 Jan 05:59
I’m genuinely struggling to understand why someone who uses a wheelchair and is also homosexual can’t be employed as an air traffic controller? The guy is an absolute Buffoon it’s almost as if we have somehow gone back in time and landed in the 60s again I read the other day that he’s also set to scrap diversity rules in the military as well
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 31 Jan 07:44
The conspiracy theories are coming out in volumes, mainly starting with it was an unpiloted drone helicopter - they really are the dumbest nation. Not sure why anyone would want to assassinate a plane full of figure skaters
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 31 Jan 09:00
Quote:
P, Fri 31 Jan 07:44
The conspiracy theories are coming out in volumes, mainly starting with it was an unpiloted drone helicopter - they really are the dumbest nation. Not sure why anyone would want to assassinate a plane full of figure skaters
I mean, they’ve just appointed a guy who believes every medical condition is a conspiracy as their health secretary so good luck to them 😂
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 31 Jan 09:05
Quote:
P, Fri 31 Jan 07:44
The conspiracy theories are coming out in volumes, mainly starting with it was an unpiloted drone helicopter - they really are the dumbest nation. Not sure why anyone would want to assassinate a plane full of figure skaters
The company are testing these things though, so you can see where it cones from, now, before you jump on me I`m not agreeing, but it is what it is.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 1 Feb 12:01
The daft pr*k has released 2 dams.... Enjoy summer with no farmland Murica. Idiot
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:28
Castro Jnr. Governor of the Great State of Canada bends the knee.
Post Edited (Mon 03 Feb 22:29)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 4 Feb 00:08
Trudeau and Sheinbaum have played Trump expertly. They knew from the start that he would never go ahead with these tariffs but they`ve massaged his ego and allowed him to get this `win`.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 7 Feb 21:53
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Mon 3 Feb 22:28
Castro Jnr. Governor of the Great State of Canada bends the knee.
You have to be extremely diplomatic when dealing with a madman with as much power as Trumpolini.
They know they have to appease someone who is capable of intentionally, or otherwise, capable of single handedly tanking global economies.
We are living in very dangerous times.
The Divided States of America is in a perilous state, and world regime change is on the horizon.
I`m sure you find the threat entertaining, Bletchley.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 7 Feb 22:16
He`s after paper straws now apparently 😲
Admin
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 8 Feb 08:21
Quote:
widtink, Fri 7 Feb 22:16
He`s after paper straws now apparently 😲
I heard he was after the Stollen. I can understand why - it`s delicious. Maybe reminds him of his German father.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 8 Feb 15:49
Quote:
Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 7 Feb 22:16
He`s after paper straws now apparently 😲
Make Milkshakes Great Again!
What a time to be alive...
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 12 Feb 01:24
Trump has been totally chucked by President Elmo. It`s quite amusing to see his fall from grace. Musk needs removed ASAP though
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 12 Feb 21:12
Confirmed today by the new US defence secretary that America will no longer underwrite European security and after a ninety minute phonecall between Trump and Putin it seems that Ukraine will be forced to accept whatever terms Russia offer.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 13 Feb 00:12
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Wed 12 Feb 21:12
Confirmed today by the new US defence secretary that America will no longer underwrite European security and after a ninety minute phonecall between Trump and Putin it seems that Ukraine will be forced to accept whatever terms Russia offer.
Welcome to 2025……..what a world we live in 🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 14 Feb 12:07
Thank goodness Trump wasn’t in the White House when Hitler was on the rampage. We’d all be drinking German beer, eating foot long sausages, and wearing lederhosen over frilly panties all the time not just weekends..
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 14 Feb 12:26
Thanks for confirming how you spend your leisure time.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 14 Feb 15:57
Photaes or it disnae happen, Parboiled
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 16:53
Quote:
Parboiled, Fri 14 Feb 12:07
We’d all be drinking German beer, eating foot long sausages, and wearing lederhosen over frilly panties all the time not just weekends..
Nah, you’d be ok, hitler would never have managed to cross the channel - my area would certainly be in soapy bubble though.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 18:54
It`s is quite remarkable how many people are upset that a war is coming to and end thus saving hundreds of thousands of lives.
Of course the truth is they are not unhappy, they couldn`t even find it on a map, they are just upset at who is ending it.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 14 Feb 19:26
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire. and where they make a desert, they call it peace.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 14 Feb 19:32
Somehow, I don`t think anyone would be upset about the Russia-Ukraine war ending. The question is about under what terms it ends. And Trump is being EXTREMELY naïve if he`s going to try and take NATO off the table for Ukraine. Do this and we will be in a hit war with Russia and/or China within the next decade or so.
As for trying to sneer at other people, Bletchley, you are supporting a guy who just appointed a vaccine sceptic as his Health secretary. That coupled with your diatribes about the "Climate scam" and the manner in which you avoid challenge on the subject says it all about your knowledge of even the basic concepts of science.
You are simply a moron.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 19:41
I don`t think anyone can disagree with hurricane Jimmy on that. Probably not even Bletchley Par
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 14 Feb 20:14
I`m just so happy that we are ending the climate scam and investing $500Bn on AI. Brilliant news for Planet Earth.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 21:04
If science can`t stand up to scepticism, then it`s not really science, it a faith.
Ukraine won`t be joining NATO, they`ve lost the war and will have to concede territory.
The USA is NATO.....Pars pro toto.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 14 Feb 21:11
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Fri 14 Feb 21:04
If science can`t stand up to scepticism, then it`s not really science, it a faith.
Ukraine won`t be joining NATO, they`ve lost the war and will have to concede territory.
The USA is NATO.....Pars pro toto.
What scepticism?
Interesting they`ve lost a war whilst occupying Russian territory...
NATO would do perfectly alright without the US. If they also want to continue acting hostile, Europe should consider them as such.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 21:16
And the other countries are only paying that much because Trump made them.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 14 Feb 21:33
Once again we see Bletchley avoiding the question with regard to Science. And what you`ve said basically shows that you have ZERO understanding of how Scientific research groups actually function.
Quite normal for narcissists like yourself and Trump to avoid saying "I don`t know" at all costs, because to do so would be a massive loss of face to the image-obsessed mind.
I actually agree that Europe should do FAR more for it`s defense and, collectively, should have a larger military than the US. The US and Germany should have done a deal far earlier to get the Leopard IIs and F16s in there. The sad thing is that US, French, German and UK air power could have put the Ukraine war to bed quite easily.
Funny though how Trump and Vance claim to be protecting Democracy and Free speech yet the guy wants to make pals with Putin and Xi who are vehemently opposed to just that. They seem quite content to let Y`all Qaeda Christian Nationalists run the show.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 21:58
Quote:
Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
You and I shall never debate anything on these boards, ever.
The closest you will get to that eventuality is to continue your current policy of posting ad hominem attacks.
I do not care what names you call me, nothing will make me lower my standards of decorum for debate even if you ever posted something that interested me, which you haven`t, ever.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 14 Feb 22:07
You`re right Bletchley, simply due to the fact that you constantly post conjecture. And it`s blatantly obvious to everyone that you refuse to engage in debate because you simply don`t have the knowledge, which is why you never address the points made to you. You`re a narcissist who is either convinced he is/pretending to be enlightened! 😂
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 14 Feb 22:29
You`re being trolled HJ. Like the 1980s classic movie Wargames taught us `the only way to win is not to play `.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 14 Feb 22:40
It`s actually difficult to know how to engage with people who are on a part of the spectrum which means that they are potentially incapable of demonstrating feelings and emotional responses on a normal human scale
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Feb 09:20
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
The moon landing was 100% fake. If they could achieve it with a tinfoil spacecraft run using the computing power of a BBC Micro, why has no-one ever done it again?
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 15 Feb 11:25
Quote:
jake89, Sat 15 Feb 09:20
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
The moon landing was 100% fake. If they could achieve it with a tinfoil spacecraft run using the computing power of a BBC Micro, why has no-one ever done it again?
No one`s ever done anything again since the last time someone did it.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 15 Feb 11:31
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jake89, Sat 15 Feb 09:20
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hurricane_jimmy, Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
The moon landing was 100% fake. If they could achieve it with a tinfoil spacecraft run using the computing power of a BBC Micro, why has no-one ever done it again?
There were 5 more manned moon landings though.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Feb 12:07
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 15 Feb 11:31
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jake89, Sat 15 Feb 09:20
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hurricane_jimmy, Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
The moon landing was 100% fake. If they could achieve it with a tinfoil spacecraft run using the computing power of a BBC Micro, why has no-one ever done it again?
There were 5 more manned moon landings though.
By NASA. All 12 to have allegedly landed on the moon were NASA astronauts. They did 5 missions in 3 years and then stopped. Why? It cost a lot but 50 years later with 50 years of discoveries and tech it should be much cheaper and easier. Why stop?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 15 Feb 12:12
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jake89, Sat 15 Feb 12:07
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 15 Feb 11:31
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jake89, Sat 15 Feb 09:20
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hurricane_jimmy, Fri 14 Feb 22:42
Quite possibly TOWK, but I think you`d be surprised how daft some folk actually are. This week my boss here in HK told me that America faked the Moon Landing and China apparently proved it. Her basis of this theory was simply because she saw the film Fly Me To The Moon! 🤯
The moon landing was 100% fake. If they could achieve it with a tinfoil spacecraft run using the computing power of a BBC Micro, why has no-one ever done it again?
There were 5 more manned moon landings though.
By NASA. All 12 to have allegedly landed on the moon were NASA astronauts. They did 5 missions in 3 years and then stopped. Why? It cost a lot but 50 years later with 50 years of discoveries and tech it should be much cheaper and easier. Why stop?
Because the moon is functionally valueless and there are better things to put resources towards?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Feb 13:44
It was a show of power during the cold war, not really been a need to go back since. Also, there is no way on earth you keep thousands of employees silent for decades about it.
Just like people claiming the covid is a worldwide conspiracy, when governments cant even agree on the colour of s$$$e, let alone that sort of cover up!
Vance is really stepping up the rhetoric though with his claiming that Europe is Europes biggest enemy. Not that Russia would manage to dominate the NATO nations without the US, given they can barely take over the Ukraine. And don’t think the US people would take too kindly to the US siding with Putin and declaring war on Western Europe.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 15 Feb 15:25
Europe to be excluded from the talk with Russia. I wonder if Vlad still has some footage containing Trump?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 15 Feb 16:19
Asking Zeleinski to sign a document giving the Yanks 50% of all Ukrainian minerals for nothing in return 😂
The arrogance is impressive.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Feb 18:45
Vance genuinely believes the Scottish government can enforce people praying in their own homes. He`s a complete and utter idiot much like most involved with Trump.
Trump is 100% compromised. It`s blatant. Those thinking he`s all for America need to realise he is potentially their biggest enemy.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 15 Feb 19:04
I`ve just asked Gemini and it says....
Yes, people in Scotland can pray in their own home. Recent discussions around the introduction of buffer zones around abortion clinics have led to some misinformation. However, the law does not prohibit anyone from praying within their own homes.
Misinformation indeed....
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Feb 19:49
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ipswichpar, Sat 15 Feb 19:04
I`ve just asked Gemini and it says....
Yes, people in Scotland can pray in their own home. Recent discussions around the introduction of buffer zones around abortion clinics have led to some misinformation. However, the law does not prohibit anyone from praying within their own homes.
Misinformation indeed....
No, but, yeah, but, no because that big man in America said so.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 15 Feb 20:04
Looking forwards to Belchleys trolling spin now that Trumpetism has reached our very own shores
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 15 Feb 20:18
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P, Sat 15 Feb 20:04
Looking forwards to Belchleys trolling spin now that Trumpetism has reached our very own shores
The troll will do the usual, ignore it and throw 4-6 random, unfounded accusations out to muddy the debate. It`s a standard tactic of the far right.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 16 Feb 12:09
Literally appointed an alcoholic in Pete Hegseth as Sec of Defence 😂😂
Murica
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 16 Feb 15:06
What kompromat could the Russians have on Trump?
Details of sexual assault?
Evidence that he encouraged the overthrow of an elected government?
Proof of financial fraud?
They say Trump is a Russian asset. I don`t think that means he is in the pay of the Kremlin, more that he is amoral and has no view of right or wrong other than "might is right". Malfeasance need not be punished. There are no consequences to his actions, or at least, none that concerns him.
This is one downside of electing amateurs to challenge the orthodoxy. Sometimes they don`t know what they are doing, or why things are done as they are.
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sun 16 Feb 16:35
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McCaig`s Tower, Sun 16 Feb 15:06
What kompromat could the Russians have on Trump?
Details of sexual assault?
Evidence that he encouraged the overthrow of an elected government?
Proof of financial fraud?
They say Trump is a Russian asset. I don`t think that means he is in the pay of the Kremlin, more that he is amoral and has no view of right or wrong other than "might is right". Malfeasance need not be punished. There are no consequences to his actions, or at least, none that concerns him.
This is one downside of electing amateurs to challenge the orthodoxy. Sometimes they don`t know what they are doing, or why things are done as they are.
Allegedly there is video footage of Trump receiving golden showers from two Russian prostitutes.
Stopping that coming out might be a motivating factor.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sun 16 Feb 22:46
I have a good friend who is Russian but now lives and works over here ....
His take on this whole thing as it stands .... Just for the sake of a different viewpoint.
The world is undergoing massive changes. Countries like those in the BRICS are openly discussing, planning and negotiating the new roles. Meanwhile, the Western world struggles with acknowledging the diminishing global dominance. Admitting that the era of being the top dog is over and that we`re shifting back to power diplomacy, is a bitter pill for us to swallow. We prefer to close our eyes and act as if it`s all just a bad dream. Trump, however, is well aware of this shift. Unlike other Western leaders, he is prepared to openly voice the preparation for the change without acknowledging the reasons for it outloud.
Trump recognises that if he emulates the British Empire`s approach during its decline, the U.S. will be f****d. However, by accepting change as inevitable, retreating strategically, regrouping, and prioritizing America it will/should keep America very Great indeed, but if USA is no longer an empire and concentrates on its self what does it mean for us? the question we have to ask and the answer i am afraid is not a good one (for us and the rest of Europe)
Vance is a reasonably smart guy. He didn`t say anything that wasn`t true, discussions of Europe`s decline in freedom of speech was talk around kitchen tables for a while now. However, what he omitted from his speech was arguably more telling - there was no mention of Ukraine, which was the elephant in the room, the only thing Europeans wanted to talk about and US basically told them that they are in the back seat and being sidelined, be quite, shut up, big boys are talking lol Europe got royally slapped in the face and there is zero we can do about it. In fact the more we shout the worse it will be because the weakness is on show like laundry hanging out to dry 😂
To put it simply Russia won the war. Europe is refusing to admit it but US can see the writing on the wall and Trump is backing out leaving Europe owning the defeat.
The idea of a European army has been discussed for years, especially just before Brexit, as I recall. If this goes through, it could completely dash Ukraine`s chances of EU membership, but it seems they`re too oblivious to realise this. Remember, the Russians had no issue with Ukraine joining the EU, provided they could maintain their trade bloc with Ukraine, given how many Ukrainian businesses depended on it. EU insisted in 2014 that Ukraine had to choose between them and Russia, and then instigated the regime change together with the US and here we are today.
Thoughts ?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 17 Feb 10:25
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Bletchley_Par, Fri 14 Feb 21:16
And the other countries are only paying that much because Trump made them.
These figures are not contributions to Nato.
This is what each country spends on their own defence budget. Nothing to do with nato contributions.
USA have always, and will always spend crazy money on that.
Their economy allows it.
The electorate of European countries don`t believe it is necessary.
Now that the threat of an expanding conflict is becoming more likely, European governments can justify spending more.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 17 Feb 11:31
Agreed.....developing weapons and then selling them to others at a profit isn`t really a spending on defence....
I was hoping over the weekend to find a trustworthy source to try and better understand the actual data. Might have to get that Economist subscription after all.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Feb 22:28
Trump`s now accusing Ukraine of starting the war with Russia!
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Wed 19 Feb 05:50
Trump is being played like a fiddle by Putin. I still can`t make my mind up whether Trump is a rabbit in the headlights or he just doesn`t want to use the leverage the US has over Russia.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 19 Feb 06:56
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Wed 19 Feb 05:50
Trump is being played like a fiddle by Putin. I still can`t make my mind up whether Trump is a rabbit in the headlights or he just doesn`t want to use the leverage the US has over Russia.
Trump is just a grifter doing what grifters do, making themselves money and playing the audience.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 19 Feb 16:12
Now calling Zelenskiy a dictator 😂😂 you couldn’t make this guy up if you tried!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 19 Feb 16:50
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Dave_1885, Wed 19 Feb 16:12
Now calling Zelenskiy a dictator 😂😂 you couldn’t make this guy up if you tried!
To be fair Zelensky has said he`s in charge and there won`t be an election, I mean, not exactly the opposite is he?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 19 Feb 16:58
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Dandy Warhol, Wed 19 Feb 16:50
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Dave_1885, Wed 19 Feb 16:12
Now calling Zelenskiy a dictator 😂😂 you couldn’t make this guy up if you tried!
To be fair Zelensky has said he`s in charge and there won`t be an election, I mean, not exactly the opposite is he?
The country has been in the middle of a massive war for 3 years - do you really expect people to the polls in the meantime?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 19 Feb 17:25
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Dave_1885, Wed 19 Feb 16:58
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Dandy Warhol, Wed 19 Feb 16:50
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Dave_1885, Wed 19 Feb 16:12
Now calling Zelenskiy a dictator 😂😂 you couldn’t make this guy up if you tried!
To be fair Zelensky has said he`s in charge and there won`t be an election, I mean, not exactly the opposite is he?
The country has been in the middle of a massive war for 3 years - do you really expect people to the polls in the meantime?
Trump is a grifter that will grasp onto anything, that`s his anything.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 19 Feb 17:47
Nice to see that he`s getting called out for more misinformation about support for Zelensky, and that it is being pointed out that his approval ratings are higher than the Stormy Daniels loving Trump.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 19 Feb 19:59
One inch to the right and it was sorted
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 19 Feb 23:23
Zelesnsky will fight to the last man if we fund his habit long enough.
Trump is not an ideologue..."Of course he is an ideologue!!!" I hear you TDS sufferers scream while furiously googling "what is an ideologue?". But this is why he makes the perfect peacemaker.
Unlike the EU leaders and our current Prime Minister who undoubtedly are ideologue given beautifly effin illustrated by their response to JD Vance`s speech in Munich.
This war started in 2014 and in some ways probably before that. Millions of people have already died and Ukraine has been under martial law since 2018 and political opposition outlawed. It`s difficult to see it as anything but a failed state.
11 political parties outlawed, Former MP`s of the Ukrainian parliament stripped of their citizenship, seized the bank accounts of opposition leaders and elections cancelled.
The EU have already ploughed the road to what their response will be to any US arranged armistice, the EU seem more concerned that Trump could win the Nobel peace prize than anything else.
Leverage is everything, the only leverage Zelensky appears to have is the Chernobyl Nuclear husk, which should focus western minds given that Zelensky has professed a desire for Ukraine to have nuclear weapons.
This ****-show has to end, this EU/Biden funded war must be over and the hundreds of thousands of holes in the ground filled with the men the warmongers have sent to battle grow grass.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Wed 19 Feb 23:34
Bletchley, three questions: (i) From which institution were you bestowed a law degree? (ii) From which institution were you bestowed Physics degree? (iii) From which institution were you bestowed a history or politics degree specialising in the relationship between Russia and former Soviet states?
(Or will you go with the line that we are brainwashed by expert professors?)
If you do not posses either of these, then why are you even trying?
The glaringly obvious ridiculousity (is that a word?) is the fact that you`re complaining about Chernobyl but conveniently forgetting about Zaporizhzhia.
My bet is that he simply ignores the questions because he knows he doesn`t know.
Moron.
Post Edited (Wed 19 Feb 23:37)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 19 Feb 23:58
Stop engaging HJ! It`s the old analogy of playing chess with a pigeon.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 20 Feb 00:03
Quote:
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 19 Feb 23:58
Stop engaging HJ! It`s the old analogy of playing chess with a pigeon.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
That`s right TOWK you tell him!
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 20 Feb 06:13
Trump is now just reading the script he is instructed to read by the Kremlin, he doesn’t even have the wherewithal to put his statements into chat gpt with the command “make this sound less like President Putin is telling me what to say”
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 21 Feb 07:32
Irony of ironies, HJ is calling Bletchley a "moron". And the usual crowd are piling in with insults!
In actual fact, guys, Bletchley`s comments about the Ukraine situation are pretty accurate.
Too many of you have succumbed to the lies and distortions of your mainstream media and have failed to realise the days of those sources are numbered.
There are many more reliable alternative sources now. No, not Pravda, but a multitude of unbiased experts in various fields. They are not in the pay of the military industrial complex like those who form an orderly queue to be interviewed at the BBC, ITV, Times Radio, MSNBC, CNN, etc. The lies they have perpetrated these past three years verge on the criminal.
It must be approaching a year since I caused some shock by stating here that Russia had won the war. This wasn`t some isolated "left-field" view, this was the consensus of many experts, and I just echoed their comments.
Everything pointed to disaster for Ukraine after the failure of its Spring Offensive. And it should have ended then. indeed, it should have ended very soon after it started, but for the intervention of Biden and Boris Johnson. The failure to stop and instead fuel the flames with ever-more weapons has resulted in the unnecessary deaths of more than a million Ukrainians and Russians. Now that is criminal!
You know, Bletchley is right. the roots of this war go back to 2014 and beyond when a properly elected president Yanukovych was overthrown in a CIA-funded coup. A colour revolution made for good documentaries, but it was all bullshit. His sin was to not support moves to strengthen links with the West and let Ukraine join NATO.
And here we are - Trump is abandoning NATO. Not because he is Putin`s stooge - he knows the extent to which the Biden administration, NATO, and the governments of Germany, France and Britain have stuffed things up.
Trump acknowledges the truth, that Putin was provoked by the actions of NATO and its members. Today, NATO is much-diminished. Likely, it is on a shoogly peg. According to the experts, without the US and Turkey, NATO would struggle to put 50,000 troops on the ground in a fight against Russia.
There is only one sensible outcome: With luck, not before time, we may have peace.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 21 Feb 07:44
I did some work for a large broadcaster, I`ll say only this, the footage you don`t see from these places vs the footage you do is mind blowing.
There`s a lot of Nazis in Ukraine.
I`m no Putin fan at all but I`ll go on record saying Zelenskiy is an actor, a coked up little grifter.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 21 Feb 11:20
Just straight outright lies from Oz Par. If I were you thought Oz I`d more concerned with Russia`s partner without limits conducting naval exercises just off your southern coast. To be fair if China was to make a move against Australia`s mineral resources they`d have every right after you made alliances with the USA right?
I assume you also support Trump`s idea of relocating the Palestinians from Gaza and turn it into a Riviera owned by the U.S/Israel?
Post Edited (Fri 21 Feb 11:22)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 21 Feb 11:24
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OzPar, Fri 21 Feb 07:32
Irony of ironies, HJ is calling Bletchley a "moron". And the usual crowd are piling in with insults!
In actual fact, guys, Bletchley`s comments about the Ukraine situation are pretty accurate.
Too many of you have succumbed to the lies and distortions of your mainstream media and have failed to realise the days of those sources are numbered.
There are many more reliable alternative sources now. No, not Pravda, but a multitude of unbiased experts in various fields. They are not in the pay of the military industrial complex like those who form an orderly queue to be interviewed at the BBC, ITV, Times Radio, MSNBC, CNN, etc. The lies they have perpetrated these past three years verge on the criminal.
It must be approaching a year since I caused some shock by stating here that Russia had won the war. This wasn`t some isolated "left-field" view, this was the consensus of many experts, and I just echoed their comments.
Everything pointed to disaster for Ukraine after the failure of its Spring Offensive. And it should have ended then. indeed, it should have ended very soon after it started, but for the intervention of Biden and Boris Johnson. The failure to stop and instead fuel the flames with ever-more weapons has resulted in the unnecessary deaths of more than a million Ukrainians and Russians. Now that is criminal!
You know, Bletchley is right. the roots of this war go back to 2014 and beyond when a properly elected president Yanukovych was overthrown in a CIA-funded coup. A colour revolution made for good documentaries, but it was all bullshit. His sin was to not support moves to strengthen links with the West and let Ukraine join NATO.
And here we are - Trump is abandoning NATO. Not because he is Putin`s stooge - he knows the extent to which the Biden administration, NATO, and the governments of Germany, France and Britain have stuffed things up.
Trump acknowledges the truth, that Putin was provoked by the actions of NATO and its members. Today, NATO is much-diminished. Likely, it is on a shoogly peg. According to the experts, without the US and Turkey, NATO would struggle to put 50,000 troops on the ground in a fight against Russia.
There is only one sensible outcome: With luck, not before time, we may have peace.
Absolute word salad
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 21 Feb 11:25
A coked up little grifter that when Russian storm troopers were circling Kyiv and the offer was on the table from the West for him to receive safe haven he refused it and remained in the city. Aye such bravery and integrity are the calling cards of a coked up grifter.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 21 Feb 11:55
All this stuff about `my sources are more reliable than your sources` is tiresome for those of us who have no sure way of authenticating the news.
If Russia has won the war why is Putin prepared to engage in peace talks?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 21 Feb 12:04
I want this war over, but I`m also desperately wanting to see Poland get involved. They have an absolute hatred for the Russians.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 21 Feb 13:26
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 21 Feb 11:25
A coked up little grifter that when Russian storm troopers were circling Kyiv and the offer was on the table from the West for him to receive safe haven he refused it and remained in the city. Aye such bravery and integrity are the calling cards of a coked up grifter.
I saw what went on the cutting room floor.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Fri 21 Feb 13:33)
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 21 Feb 17:13
The internet`s brilliant, isn`t it?
I remember when my eldest was just a baby and had hiccups. We didn`t know what to do so looked for advice online.
One site said something like:
Hiccups in babies might be very distressing for the parent but, don`t worry, they`re completely harmless
Another was along the lines of:
While it might be quite amusing when your baby has hiccups, they`re actually really dangerous
I gave up when another suggested sticking a finger up his bum.
In other words, seek and you shall find.
Once you`ve found what you`re looking for you can dismiss others who sought something different and found their own independent experts. A simple "something...something...MSM" should do the trick.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 21 Feb 17:19
Russias doing a great job if they are winning the war - 3 years in, still not in Kyiv and not much ground taken in that time.
And the US thinks that the rest of Europe needs to worry if they pull support and leave us to it? 🤔
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 21 Feb 19:33
‘I gave up when another suggested sticking a finger up his bum.’
Did they specify whose finger though?
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 21 Feb 21:57
Wow. Seems we have the tankies uniting on dotnet! Now I`m worried that there`s a tendency for men to start becoming authoritarian tankie schills as soon as we hit our late 60s!
But yes, Oz claims to be some sort of media expert, yet his posts are all Kremlin narratives to the point where they are pretty much a Copy & Paste of Dmitry Medvedev`s Telegram channel. And that makes for some hilarious reading. For someone who supposedly has such an intricate knowledge of the media, it really is startling how he seems to accept the Russian and Chinese State Media narratives, which are basically mafia approved when you look into the mechanics of the CCP and United Russia, yet he thinks the Western media is constantly lying despite the fact that the levels of transparency and fact checking are night and day. Bare in mind that I work in HK with mainland companies and we often have to deal with press both locally and from the Mainland, so I`ve see this first hand. And on top of that you have all the Chinese Face Culture bullsh*t which is rampant and according to them, every possible problem is the fault of anyone but theirs.
People like Putin, Xi and Trump are senile auld gits who are driven by ego and power. Putin started the war to distract the Russian people from the corruption allegations from Navalny and others that were gaining traction and he has history of that. Xi has a whole cult of personality surrounding him including that he supposedly graduated from University, when the reality is that he didn`t complete primary school and his daughter (like many CCP officials) had to switch her citizenship to HK so that she could also hold a foreign passport. And just look how Trump reacted to Zelensky rightly saying that he has fallen for Russian disinformation and then rejecting extortion over the minerals deal - toys oot the pram.
For me, the real irony is how Oz has gone from being fairly respected on these boards to now siding with the absolute zoomers like Bletchley...reminds me a wee bit of Putin and Kim Jong Un tbh!
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 23 Feb 01:46
TOWK said: "Just straight outright lies from Oz Par."
Would you care to elaborate, TOWK? Precisely what in my post is a lie? I believe everything I posted here to be the truth, unlike the utter bullshit you post in defence of your murderous zionist friends. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.
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Wee Eck said: "All this stuff about `my sources are more reliable than your sources` is tiresome for those of us who have no sure way of authenticating the news. If Russia has won the war why is Putin prepared to engage in peace talks?"
For the past couple of years, I have tried my best to explain on here the extent to which Brits, Americans, Aussies, and doubtless, Europeans too, have collectively been subject to an organised whitewashing of the news we receive. It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to determine that the sometimes horrifying unedited clips we see on widely-available social media doesn`t match with the narrative we are being fed on our daily news and current affairs programmes. However, it does require a deeper understanding of how the media works to clearly identify the methods being used to pull the wool over our eyes.
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HJ said: "Wow. Seems we have the tankies uniting on dotnet! Now I`m worried that there`s a tendency for men to start becoming authoritarian tankie schills as soon as we hit our late 60s!"
Quite apart from clearly being an ageist twerp, you post the most arrant nonsense. Almost everything you post on here is factually wrong.
EDITED TO ADD:
The Ukraine situation summarised quite succinctly by Roger Waters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYKetrodpoY
Post Edited (Sun 23 Feb 01:56)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 23 Feb 11:10
I need evidence, not some YouTube video mind (which after all is the biggest media platform in the world, talk about MSM!) of th CIA funded coup in Ukraine. Such a successful coup, which happened in 2005 by the way, that Ukraine still hadn`t joined NATO. If that was the plan of the cia why by 2014 had they still not joined? No the Orange Revolution in Ukraine was all too real , the people weren`t about to let their nation become corrupted any further by Russian influenced oligarchy and that sort of attitude represented a real and present danger to the ruling oligarchy structure inside Russia.
Oz you`re just a Trump/Putin/Xi fanboy (the Xi bit I understand as your homeland has to get used to being under his thumb). Not a single word has been uttered by you about Trump`s plan to relocate the Palestinians from Gaza, a plan that has the gleeful support of Netanyahu. Why is that I wonder? You were all over anything Biden done in the other thread but have mysteriously went very quiet about Trump`s amping up of US support.
I think what irritates most though is your attitude and belief that the `wool is being pulled over our eyes` and that you are one of the enlightened few that can see through the bs to the real truth. I doubt it has ever occured to you that you could be the one being duped. That the same techniques you accuse us of being fooled by could be used successfully on you.
Alas for you Oz I think you have been taken in hook line and sinker. It`s why almost 18 months (not approaching a year) after you said the fall of Ukraine was imminent the frontline has barely moved at all in real terms.
It`s is why only last year you thought George Galloway was the most influential politician in the UK . It`s why you thought that somehow Israeli cities were going to be reduced to rubble by Hezbollah rockets.
That`s the problem when you only see everything from one viewpoint, when you get all your info from one compromised source. You don`t see the whole picture. You don`t see all the angles and you want it to be one way. But it`s the other.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 23 Feb 11:45
Bird flu now endemic to US Cows. This is going to be a right laugh.
How`s the price of those eggs going?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:15
The MSM generally can`t agree about much in politics but somehow they`re all conspiring to give us a false picture of what`s happening in Ukraine and Palestine. It`s all `fake news`. Where have I heard that expression before?
Roger Waters is entitled to his opinion but I`m not clear why he should be given more credibility than other bloggers/influencers or whatever you want to call them.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:20
Russia launches largest drone attack since the start of the war to help oust the dictator.
Meanwhile, Israel refusing to release 600 prisoners as part of the ceasefire deal despite getting the hostages they demanded.
Oh and Musk tells all government officials to tell them of their achievements from last week or resign!
What a world we live in!
Post Edited (Sun 23 Feb 12:21)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:28
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:56
Rogers Waters might be the most arrogant man that ever lived.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sun 23 Feb 13:35
Excellent post TOWK. Oz has revealed himself as an absolute Zoomer.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 23 Feb 21:06
I quite like OzPar (although he doesn`t like me much). I think he offers a different perspective on quite a lot of world issues and it`s good to take differing viewpoints on board. Some of the people that have torn into him here would do well to open their minds instead of living in their own little echo chamber. Some people are a little too full of their own importance
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 24 Feb 09:05
c`mon guys show a bit of respect please when replying.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 24 Feb 09:08
coincidentally today is the 3rd anniversary of the day that Russia invaded Ukraine.
Zelenskey is right to hold off on elections until resolved, otherwise the whole topic (of elections) could be dragged down and interfered with by the Russians.
Can`t believe Trump got re-elected, America is in a bad way with his lies and distorted information.
this is not going to go well so Europe needs to stand up tp Trump and Putin.
Brexit was a very bad idea.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 24 Feb 09:47
It looks like the new German Chancellor agrees with you about standing up to Trump, brian!
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 24 Feb 22:02
Is Trump crawling back?
Don`t trust him
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 24 Feb 22:48
Macron taking none of his crap today. Having his hand forcibly removed from Macrons leg... Cringe behavior
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Tue 25 Feb 06:15
US voting with Russia, North Korea & Belarus against UN resolution on Ukraine. I do find some morbid humour in a nation that’s spent decades fearing communism & socialism so quickly finds its self politically aligned with their boogieman countries
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 25 Feb 09:20
The most heinous aspect of his character is being a total golf cheat. I have just read that he boots the ball from the rough so often the caddies have nicknamed him Pele..the bounder!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 27 Feb 14:15
Measles is now a thing again in the US. Madness.
Notice the Troll has gone radio silent for a week or 2 as well
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 27 Feb 16:14
These were vomit-inducing pictures of Trump surrounded by his sycophantic cabinet, including Musk, yesterday.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 27 Feb 16:28
Has banned certain news outlets from the White House now as well. Just waiting on him unveiling the Tate brothers as pillars of society and new sexual health advisors to round off the week……
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 27 Feb 17:47
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 27 Feb 16:14
These were vomit-inducing pictures of Trump surrounded by his sycophantic cabinet, including Musk, yesterday.
All political hangers on are board inducing rats, all of them.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 27 Feb 19:10
Starmer`s trying to flatter Trump with an invitation from Charlie for an unprecedented second State visit. That won`t work will it? 😄😄😄
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 27 Feb 19:57
Boak inducing, but Starmer does have to make a deal with this clown.
Musk is an absolute prik.
Quite depressing really.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 27 Feb 22:49
Staying at Balmoral seems to have clinched it. He loves Scatland!
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 10:53
Looks like a trade deal is on and we are at the head of the queue.
The EU not so much...
Brexit has been the greatest thing, no one has seen anything like it and with a President who loves the UK, especially Scotland it`s gonna be great.
Starmer claiming the UK has "free speech" is disinformation, misinformation and a conspiracy theory we don`t even have freedom of thought as JD Vance pointed out.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 28 Feb 11:11
Well, you`re allowed to post your nonsense on here so I don`t know what you`re complaining about.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 28 Feb 11:13
The troll has returned
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 13:23
Free speech is an interesting one, particularly the explanation Starmer gave.
We have always had free speech but on the basis that what you say is acceptable. The issue we seem to have now is people aren`t clear on what is and is not acceptable and it`s reached a point where people end up feeling they can`t say anything.
Look at what is currently happening at NHS Fife. A doctor has complained because a nurse said they weren`t comfortable changing in front of them. This case has been going on for a couple of weeks now. So you have a doctor who was offended calling for a nurse to be sacked and a nurse being offended that the doctor is offended. In my eyes the nurses views are a touch ignorant, but it she felt uncomfortable then I see no reason to stop her highlighting this. We need to get back to just stating the facts instead of skirting around an issue.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 28 Feb 13:49
Freedom of speech isn`t freedom to say whatever you want, there are loads of caveats to that freedom. There are all sorts of language that are prohibited.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:08
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 28 Feb 13:49
Freedom of speech isn`t freedom to say whatever you want, there are loads of caveats to that freedom. There are all sorts of language that are prohibited.
Exactly. You can say what you want but don`t expect not to be pulled up for anything that`s prohibited. The difficulty is the interpretation of what is and is not prohibited. It used be quite simple and a blind eye would be turned to little indiscretions. Sadly, social media puts a massive magnifying glass on people.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:22
It all changed when one of Trump`s press secretaries during his last term as President announced `We have alternative facts`.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:03
All bets are off. Meeting with Zelensky has not gone well at all
His puppet, Vance, is a great piece of work too
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 18:05)
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Topic Originator: Kintos
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:06
Disgraceful conduct from the leader and VP of the “Free World”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:07
Half of America voted for this clown.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:07
It was absolutely disgusting.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:09
Vamce is a piece of work 🤦🏻♂️ think the US will be pulling all aid from Ukraine and backing a full Russian invasion at this rate……
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:12
Europe is on its own. Zelensky should tell him to GTF
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:18
And Charles has given him an invite over here? I’d put him up in a travel lodge
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:30
Trump has told him to come back when he wants peace.
That’s that then
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:32
Wish the UK and rest of Europe would now tell the US to do one - do we really need them?
Russia has shown their incredible weakness with the failed invasion of Ukraine. Surely we can stand up to them and US now?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:39
No we can`t and Trump knows it. The stance Trump is taking will obviously be to long term disadvantage of the USA but short term it`s their world.
The way Zelenski was treated at the press conference was appalling. An absolute stitch up. Being asked why he doesn`t wear a suit? He`s the commander and chief of a nation fighting an actual hot war whose troops are fighting and dying everyday. The Ukrainian leader showed courage and integrity under such hostile pressure, just the thing leaders should be made of but the maga media will crucify him yet laud Putin.
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 18:40)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:42
Well said.
That’s Zelensky away.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:46
Can we get on the blower to the Chinese and get some of their cheap gear?
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:51
That was fantastic.
The little actor who has sent hundreds of thousands to die in a war he couldn`t win has finally been told the hard facts he needed.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:03
Please folks just ignore. As I`ve just heard it`s like wrestling with pigs. The pigs love it and you get dirty.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:16
"This is going to be great television." is incredibly Presidential.
I think Vance started getting more gobby when he realised he didn`t understand the facts.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:24
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Fri 28 Feb 18:51
That was fantastic.
The little actor who has sent hundreds of thousands to die in a war he couldn`t win has finally been told the hard facts he needed.
What an utter, fckin embarrassment you are.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:29
I hope you are on the wind up as per your usual B P .. if not then go and have a good hard look at yourself .. That was one of the poorest, pathetic posts I have seen on here .. shame on you
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:30
Just ignore, Big T
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:30
Zelensky interview on Fox apparently still going ahead tonight on at 23:00GMT should be interesting if that is the case.
The mineral agreement has apparently not been signed, so not quite sure where that leaves things.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:32
Essentially, what that clown, Trump and his pitbull, Vance are doing, is blackmailing Ukraine.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:54
Correct Raymie .. but to do it on a live feed for all to see is perhaps the most crass thing I have seen ..
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 19:55)
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:59
Quote:
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 19:32
Essentially, what that clown, Trump and his pitbull, Vance are doing, is blackmailing Ukraine.
So the EU had their mineral reciprocity agreement in place in 2021 and sleepy Joe had none, just gave Zelesky a blank check.
Yet no doubt to you EU = good business sense but bad, bad orange man = "blackmail".
Uh huh.
The hypocrisy is astounding...oops did I say astounding? 2016 wan`t it`s word back, what I meant to say was.
The hypocrisy caused by TDS is entirely predictable.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:01
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 18:18
And Charles has given him an invite over here? I’d put him up in a travel lodge
Or maybe a gallows
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:11
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Fri 28 Feb 19:32
Essentially, what that clown, Trump and his pitbull, Vance are doing, is blackmailing Ukraine.
Absolutely wild that today! Very interesting few days to come and Trumps ended without his mineral deal too…..
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:16
Trump, I’ve no doubt has a mineral deal in place with the lands that Russia has occupied, in return for putting Zelensky over his knee
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 20:16)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:17
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Fri 28 Feb 18:51
That was fantastic.
The little actor who has sent hundreds of thousands to die in a war he couldn`t win has finally been told the hard facts he needed.
You really are a sad little man. You can tell from your posts that you are missing that certain something that makes people human
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:29
Another reason to want rid of the Royals, with Fat Finger Charlie inviting that Cun7 back.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:36
Quote:
Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:17
You really are a sad little man. You can tell from your posts that you are missing that certain something that makes people human
Tully, given the posts you make I could not be happier that I am missing something that allows you to self identify as human.
You have multiple times on these boards wished death on people and here you are questioning my morals enjoying a rather frank political discussion with me surrogating for the side that actually wished the killing to stop.
I would be more than happy to be considered a separate species from yourself as it is I can only pray that the darkness in your soul is lifted.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:44
Anyone revelling in this needs to wake up and realise this is people`s lives these idiots are playing with.
I don`t know the ins and outs of any deals but it seems odd to me that Ukraine should be giving anything to Russia. If they do, what`s stopping Russia saying "Yeah, we want that bit too"?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:53
US sanctions on Russia to be lifted as well. The adult nappy wearing pr*k is just a Putin puppet
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:57
Russia is apparently demanding four large areas of Ukraine (that they aren`t currently completely occupying).
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 28 Feb 21:01
Quote:
ipswichpar, Fri 28 Feb 20:57
Russia is apparently demanding four large areas of Ukraine (that they aren`t currently completely occupying).
I wonder why……🤔 at least other nations in Europe are showing balls and standing by Ukraine, including Poland who hate the Russians with a passion. Putins pretty lucky that NATO hasn’t gotten involved yet.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 21:02
Quote:
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:44
If they do, what`s stopping Russia saying "Yeah, we want that bit too"?
Nothing.
They probably do want that bit too.
Very few wars are completed to totality, the fight to the bunker is the exception not the rule.
For a thousand years, European wars have been halted because the outcome has become inevitable.
The loser gives up some land, pays restitution and chalks it up to experience, both sides then bury their dead and you have a period of peace.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 21:41
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Fri 28 Feb 21:02
Quote:
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 20:44
If they do, what`s stopping Russia saying "Yeah, we want that bit too"?
Nothing.
They probably do want that bit too.
Very few wars are completed to totality, the fight to the bunker is the exception not the rule.
For a thousand years, European wars have been halted because the outcome has become inevitable.
The loser gives up some land, pays restitution and chalks it up to experience, both sides then bury their dead and you have a period of peace.
So, given Russia appear to want more, making a concession would result in a potentially awful outcome for Ukrainian people.
I`m all for nations getting on but Trump`s relationship with Putin makes me uneasy.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 22:02
Quote:
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 21:41
So, given Russia appear to want more, making a concession would result in a potentially awful outcome for Ukrainian people.
Yeah we are well past that already, cities have been levelled hundreds of thousands dead if they wish to turn "awful" into "catastrophe" they can keep fighting.
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I`m all for nations getting on but Trump`s relationship with Putin makes me uneasy.
If you actually believe some of the stuff you`ve typed here then it is quite understandable you are nervous.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Fri 28 Feb 23:18
Quote:
Yeah we are well past that already, cities have been levelled hundreds of thousands dead if they wish to turn "awful" into "catastrophe" they can keep fighting.
Don`t quite know where you are going with that. We can blame Putin for all the deaths on both sides.
Zelenskey and the Ukrainians are defending their country.
Give in to Trump and Putin and there will be many many more Ukrainian deaths.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Fri 28 Feb 23:28
"Russians came to our territory, to our houses ... they killed so many people," Zelensky says. "Just to forget it, just to say Putin is a great guy, no."
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 28 Feb 23:32
Quote:
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Fri 28 Feb 23:18
Don`t quite know where you are going with that. We can blame Putin for all the deaths on both sides.
Sure we can if we wish to adopt a sophomoric analysis of what has went on here and your entire contribution to this debate has been "Brexit and Orange Man bad."
Quote:
Zelenskey and the Ukrainians are defending their country.
Give in to Trump and Putin and there will be many many more Ukrainian deaths.
And this is just nonsense, I get you don`t like him but it seems many people would rather this war go on than Trump be a peacemaker.
I`m sure you think this all started when Putin invaded 3 years ago, it didn`t. It matters not a jot who or when it started now, all that matters who is winning.
And the solid brutal truth is this....Ukraine are killing Russians at a higher rate than the Russians are killing Ukrainians, they are fighting the good fight....but it`s not enough, they will run out of men to feed the meat grinder.
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 23:36)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 1 Mar 03:27
I think this is probably a good time for Mexico to take Texas back. Trump will obviously capitulate in order to save lives.
If Trump really wants to stop the war for noble, humanitarian reasons, he can tell Putin to get out and repair the damage.
Of course, he is compromised by Putin, so in order to save money for his top 1% tax breaks, he picks on the little guy.
The best thing that can happen now is Chic should tell Trumpski to forget the invite and invite zelenski instead.
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 03:32)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 1 Mar 03:50
Imagine if Winston had the same philosophy in 1941 and gave up Kent to the Germans………BP would laud him till the cows came home of course!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 07:24
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Fri 28 Feb 22:02
Quote:
Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 28 Feb 21:41
So, given Russia appear to want more, making a concession would result in a potentially awful outcome for Ukrainian people.
Yeah we are well past that already, cities have been levelled hundreds of thousands dead if they wish to turn "awful" into "catastrophe" they can keep fighting.
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I`m all for nations getting on but Trump`s relationship with Putin makes me uneasy.
If you actually believe some of the stuff you`ve typed here then it is quite understandable you are nervous.
Care to give examples of things I`ve said that are incorrect?
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 07:35
Bletchley
No idea where you think people want this war to go in.
Everybody wants it to stop, even zelenskey
Big bully goes into playground, bullies all the kids. Head teacher says to bully, "please stop hitting the kids, and we will let you do what you want"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 07:53
Quote:
brian, Sat 1 Mar 07:35
Bletchley
No idea where you think people want this war to go in.
Everybody wants it to stop, even zelenskey
Big bully goes into playground, bullies all the kids. Head teacher says to bully, "please stop hitting the kids, and we will let you do what you want"
But you`re not understanding what led the bully to hurt those kids.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 09:16
Jeezo, you cannot be serious
The bully wanted to take over that country and kill people who stood in his way
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 10:26
Hey redstarpar, I don’t know how you got the impression that I don’t like you. That is simply not true. I can be grumpy on here, but that’s usually after getting up at 2am on a Sunday to watch the Pars lose again without putting in enough effort. Thank you for your supportive comments. It can be quite draining reading some of the comments on here.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 1 Mar 10:43
From doddering senility to wild unpredictability, the change in the White House must have Putin rubbing his hands with glee…he might have a wee nibble of a Baltic state’s borders just to see how NATO reacts.
Oh for a President with a Ich bin ein Berliner resolve!
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 10:51
ther reason I brought up Brexit was that we should all be working together, not broken.
I`m well aware the issues with EU and things maybe could be better in areas, but it needed worked on, not broken.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 11:18
Quote:
brian, Sat 1 Mar 09:16
Jeezo, you cannot be serious
The bully wanted to take over that country and kill people who stood in his way
You`re missing the point. What MADE him do it. He`s a sweet boy but the political environment forced him to invade. It wasn`t that long ago that NATO was stealing his pals by inviting them to join the "No Putin`s" club. Poor wee lamb.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sat 1 Mar 12:07
really unhappy that...
a) Starmer went over pretending to be tough but in reality just licked round him going an about the `special relationship (which is nonsense BTW)
b) we have a unelected/hereditary/self serving/super rich head of state
c) without any say (or reading the room) - that monarch is going to lay on a state visit to my country
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 1 Mar 12:28
Quote:
DBP, Sat 1 Mar 12:07
really unhappy that...
a) Starmer went over pretending to be tough but in reality just licked round him going an about the `special relationship (which is nonsense BTW)
b) we have a unelected/hereditary/self serving/super rich head of state
c) without any say (or reading the room) - that monarch is going to lay on a state visit to my country
Using British Taxpayers money no less.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 13:22
Quote:
You`re missing the point. What MADE him do it. He`s a sweet boy but the political environment forced him to invade. It wasn`t that long ago that NATO was stealing his pals by inviting them to join the "No Putin`s" club. Poor wee lamb.
you cannot be serious ??
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 1 Mar 13:25
Pretty sure that was sarcasm tbf
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 13:29
no, not sarcasm.
such a serious topic as this with lives lost and people agreeing with Trump, who would be sarcastic ??
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:08
Quote:
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 13:29
no, not sarcasm.
such a serious topic as this with lives lost and people agreeing with Trump, who would be sarcastic ??
It appears it is people agreeing with Trump is the real thing that sticks in yer craw rather than the lives lost.
If you actually tried to contemplate Jake`s question of what made Putin do this you might get closer to the Realpolitik of this situation.
Or you can stick with your Putinhitlerbrexithitlertrumptrump bad if you wish.
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 14:09)
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:52
really think you are misunderstanding. totally aghast at all the deaths and something should be done.
zelenskey wants peace, but I agree with him he should not kow tow to Trump and Putin who are trying to steal from Ukraine. Putin should not have invaded Ukraine in first place, he is teh one responsible for deaths on both side. Putin is happy for his russian troops to die in the fighting.
Putin just needs to stop shooting and killing and then Ukraine will stop fighting back, easy peasy.
you expect me to believe that Putin/Trump would have any scruples ???
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:07
I`m not misunderstanding you at all.
You are not posting anything complicated enough to misunderstand.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:30
For the avoidance of doubt it was definitely being sarcastic.
The narrative being pushed is that Zelensky is preventing peace by not agreeing to giving away land and minerals. Let`s flip that round - *Putin* is preventing peace by asking for enormous concessions in return for not killing more Ukrainians.
Then we have Trump in the middle with that idiot Vance asking Zelensky to say thank you and to start wearing suits.
It genuinely has become real https://youtu.be/sP2tUW0HDHA?si=AuMFtgYcWLojOsaX
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:26
Quote:
brian, Sat 1 Mar 14:52
really think you are misunderstanding. totally aghast at all the deaths and something should be done.
zelenskey wants peace, but I agree with him he should not kow tow to Trump and Putin who are trying to steal from Ukraine. Putin should not have invaded Ukraine in first place, he is teh one responsible for deaths on both side. Putin is happy for his russian troops to die in the fighting.
Putin just needs to stop shooting and killing and then Ukraine will stop fighting back, easy peasy.
you expect me to believe that Putin/Trump would have any scruples ???
Have a look at this Brian. . . .
X BGatesIsaPyscho
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:53
MikeyLeonard that does give some interesting information.
The Russians want to dominate. ok so there was dialogue about Ukraine being neutral, ok, so what people and outlooks change, especially with the threat of Russia
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 20:06
Quote:
Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:44
I was going to post this :
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Trump-behave-like-a-spoiled-child-with-zero-manners
So what are we supposed to be reading here?
The six-year old stream of Trump Derangement Syndrome from randoms or the most recent post by the autistic "Scottish" woman (her words) saying Trump`s father was abusive?
Mickey Leonard gave you a clip that perfectly explains how we ended up with a Ukraine v Russia war and your response is a Quora post that seems to be an echo chamber of "orange man bad" posts.
Once again, you are not serious about this subject and seem more interested in character assassination than a practical discussion about ending a war.
You claim Trump is trying to "steal Ukraine`s stuff" where are you getting this?
The rare earth deal came from Zelensky, a highly beneficial deal to both sides that gives the USA a big financial interest that they will wish to defend.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sun 2 Mar 07:23
Trumpet really showing himself to be a Russian asset now. And suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Although that pretend bible-thumping Muppet Vance is even worse.
They say those with NPD draw others with the same problem in and so I guess that explains Bletchley. Got a cousin who posts almost exactly the same bumph as him. Useless to society.
Going back to RSPs post, In all honesty, if you want to call someone out then do it directly rather than trying to be faux-diplomatic. Oz is drawing more satisfaction from appearing to be correct and getting one over on other posters than actually caring about the information that he`s posting. As I said, read through his posts and then compare the talking points to those on the Telegram account of Dmitry Medvedev. That will tell you all you need to know. The guy is an out-and-out authoritarian schill. Nothing more.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 2 Mar 07:41
my point is that Trump has been a loose cannon for some time,
I can`t trust him
every time I hear him he makes me boak !! :o))
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 2 Mar 08:35
Covfefe
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 2 Mar 09:39
Starmer showing yesterday how a true Leader interacts with his peers. Not with insults, with respect, dignity and friendship.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 2 Mar 10:40
Yep. He has performed excellently.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 5 Mar 04:28
The daft dementing c@nt is now saying they`ll have Greenland "One way or another".
Where`s Bletchley when you need a balanced explanation for this?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 5 Mar 05:12
Hes crashed the US Stock Exchange too with his tariffs and reports are they are now heading for recession 😂😂
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Wed 5 Mar 08:16
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 5 Mar 05:12
Hes crashed the US Stock Exchange too with his tariffs and reports are they are now heading for recession 😂😂
^^^ I am loving how they are tagging negative slurs to his name now so that they live in infamy "Trumpcession" 😂
His ego will be loving that
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Wed 5 Mar 15:43
unverified rants from Trump
BBC article
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 5 Mar 16:11
And they all hail the Messiah, dearie me!🤔😮💨
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 5 Mar 16:41
I think that was Robert De Niro BEFORE the election!
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:28
Indeed, imagine what he will be like now 🤭🤣
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 6 Mar 04:22
Macron has just stated that France will protect all of Europe with its nuclear arsenal.
Top guy.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 6 Mar 10:24
Give it a rest, you`re becoming as much of a troll as the Russian bot
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 6 Mar 15:43
In challenging times you have a superb sense of humour BP 🤔😁
On a serious note though, it looks like twenty nations are showing an interest in joining the "Coalition of the Willing".
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 6 Mar 16:43
Reports that Trump is already backing down regards tarrifs against Canada and Mexico. Only for a month though you understand. Which was what happened last month as well.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 6 Mar 17:01
Soviet Bot is running out of steam it seems. Quite sad to see.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Mar 18:28
Has somebody maybe told Trump that ultimately it is the customer who pays import tariffs?
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 6 Mar 18:45
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 6 Mar 18:28
Has somebody maybe told Trump that ultimately it is the customer who pays import tariffs?
^^^^ Nobody can tell Trump anything WeeEck. A woman once tried to say "No" to him and it didn`t work.
It`s quite funny that he slagged off the idiot whom signed the free trade deal with Canada only to discover that idiot was him 🤔😁
Buffoon of the highest order
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Mar 19:20
There`s also some irony in him criticising
Biden for committing so much aid to Ukraine then expecting them to thank the US for their help!
Post Edited (Thu 06 Mar 19:20)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 6 Mar 19:24
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 6 Mar 19:20
There`s also some irony in him criticising
Biden for committing so much aid to Ukraine then expecting them to thank the US for their help!
While simultaneously saying he is sending everything Israel needs to finish the job
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 6 Mar 20:25
Now confirmed suspending tariffs on Canada 😂😂 reckon the governor of Ontario (I think) has put the sh!ts up him by stating that no American businesses would receive help from them?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 6 Mar 21:58
And removing information to Ukraine that`s letting Russia increase attacks and injured and kill more people despite saying he wants to end it.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 6 Mar 22:13
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 6 Mar 21:58
And removing information to Ukraine that`s letting Russia increase attacks and injured and kill more people despite saying he wants to end it.
^^^^ He is the Grand Canyon of asssholessss 🫏🕳️
W⚓
DunfyDave
Post Edited (Thu 06 Mar 22:15)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 6 Mar 22:44
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 6 Mar 21:58
And removing information to Ukraine that`s letting Russia increase attacks and injured and kill more people despite saying he wants to end it.
I wonder if it will get to the stage Trump provides information to Russia. Perhaps he already is
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 6 Mar 22:49
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 6 Mar 22:44
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 6 Mar 21:58
And removing information to Ukraine that`s letting Russia increase attacks and injured and kill more people despite saying he wants to end it.
I wonder if it will get to the stage Trump provides information to Russia. Perhaps he already is
^^^ If Trump wasn`t President, he would be charged with treason
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 6 Mar 23:50
He`s been a known Russian stooge since the 80s.
Bleeeeeetchley, where are youuuuu 😂
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 10 Mar 00:02
"They rigged the election, and I became President, so that was a good thing"
Big oof
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 11 Mar 18:30
His battle with Canada is getting interesting, trade tarrifs up and Canada retaliate with higher electricity prices.
American stock market plummeting, the panic is on, wonder if Canada has the balls to pull the plug?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 11 Mar 18:50
It’s like toys oot the pram, on an economic scale
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 11 Mar 23:27
Seeing through the Swedish media various things about Denmark and Greenland. Actually curious to see what they`ll do - personally reckon Denmark should offer Greenland an Independence referendum with a set date after Trumpets presidency ends, just to make him lose face.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 12 Mar 15:11
POTUS is now selling electric cars in front of the White house 🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Mar 16:01
I thought he was buying one rather than selling one but, either way, it looks like a gross abuse of the office of POTUS. What a surprise!
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 12 Mar 16:57
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 12 Mar 15:11
POTUS is now selling electric cars in front of the White house 🤣🤣
Has he started calling them "The People`s Car" yet?
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 13 Mar 18:49
John Swinney meets with Eric Trump to discuss his father`s golfing businesses.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 13 Mar 20:08
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 13 Mar 18:49
John Swinney meets with Eric Trump to discuss his father`s golfing businesses.
Thats fair enough, as they do bring in money to our economy, despite how unlikeable the family are. Glad to hear that the wars etc were not discussed as they shouldn’t be with his son.
The father though is an absolute weapon thats making things a lot worse than before for his own gain/amusement.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 13 Mar 21:33
Aren`t all the courses he owns now failing?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 13 Mar 21:59
Quote:
jake89, Thu 13 Mar 21:33
Aren`t all the courses he owns now failing?
Not sure. I do know that Turnberry was vandalised this week though.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 13 Mar 22:14
Googled it. Turnberry lost a couple of million last year and the controversial Aberdeenshire one is yet to ever turn a profit and has lost £20m since opening.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 14 Mar 06:49
£1000 for a round at Turnberry this year!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 14 Mar 08:04
Trump confusing Elon Musk with Nikola Tesla and comparing him to Isaac Neutron. Jeezo...
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 14 Mar 08:33
That`s what happens when one uses TwatGPT
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 18 Mar 10:45
Invites a rapist to speak for the Irish people on St Patrick`s day 🤣
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 20 Mar 15:59
UK has just imposed a travel warning to the US. How to trash your country in 2 months
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 22 Mar 20:27
The new us fighter jet the F47 contract has been awarded to boeing at around $300 million per plane
First to spot the connection wins a cigar
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 22 Mar 21:39
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 22 Mar 20:27
The new us fighter jet the F47 contract has been awarded to boeing at around $300 million per plane
First to spot the connection wins a cigar
Both Trump and Boeing have been losing money for years now?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 22 Mar 23:55
They both tend to crash?
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sun 23 Mar 00:52
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 22 Mar 20:27
The new us fighter jet the F47 contract has been awarded to boeing at around $300 million per plane
First to spot the connection wins a cigar
Trump is 47th president.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 4 Apr 12:16
The dumb fanny has imposed Tariffs on nearly uninhabited islands 😂🤣
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 4 Apr 12:44
An interesting take in the Guardian on his motivation -
`... he is waging an economic war on world trade, a response that his biographer and ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, blames on his childhood: “a life spent feeling like a victim … any time he does not totally dominate he feels ripped off”.`
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Fri 4 Apr 16:51
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 4 Apr 12:16
The dumb fanny has imposed Tariffs on nearly uninhabited islands 😂🤣
^^^ And on a militarised island base completely inhabited by only US and UK troops that have zero manufacturing capability and only imports goods for the staff 🤔😁
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 4 Apr 21:46
I wonder who they`ll blame for trashing the economy?
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 4 Apr 22:44
Quote:
Wotsit, Fri 4 Apr 21:46
I wonder who they`ll blame for trashing the economy?
They are already blaming everyone else……
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 5 Apr 05:59
Where`s Bletchley-Par gone?
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Sat 5 Apr 06:10
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 4 Apr 22:44
Quote:
Wotsit, Fri 4 Apr 21:46
I wonder who they`ll blame for trashing the economy?
They are already blaming everyone else……
^^^ This is the scary part. He has his followers so stoked they believe every word he has to say.
He only has to mention that the rest of the world are to blame for his economy collapsing and they will believe him.
I worry this may stoke matters worse.
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 5 Apr 10:51
[Post Deleted] - Request to remove
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 5 Apr 12:27
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Post Edited (Sat 05 Apr 19:47)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 5 Apr 19:31
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 5 Apr 10:51
[Post Deleted] - Request to remove
Deary me, what kind of person could disagree with that, far less run off like a wee clipe to report it?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 5 Apr 19:38
I vaguely remember your comment, RSP. Don`t recall it being that offensive.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 5 Apr 19:48
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 5 Apr 19:31
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 5 Apr 10:51
[Post Deleted] - Request to remove
Deary me, what kind of person could disagree with that, far less run off like a wee clipe to report it?
My comment was based on RSPs original post so I`ve deleted mine myself to avoid creating some heinous offence to someone...
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 5 Apr 19:52
These tarriffs aren`t being imposed for economic reasons, they are political. Not sure exactly what the end game is here but whatever it is it`ll no doubt be planned to enhance the Trump administrations position which isn`t the same as enhancing the position of the U.S.
China though have maybe not read the memo and have perhaps put a spanner into the works.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 6 Apr 03:29
A shop in a southern Melbourne suburb exclusively sells US food products. It does quite well, catering to expat Americans and the occasional Aussie seeking a reminder of a taste they had experienced while visiting the States.
I used to call into the shop to purchase a packet of Grape-Nuts breakfast cereal that I had taken a liking to in the 1970s, but I stopped going once they increased the price to a level I wasn’t prepared to pay.
The store was full of American food products, but barely anything interested me. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t bring myself to purchase the oversweetened or overprocessed foods on display. Grape-Nuts were a very rare healthy exception.
All this talk about US tariffs has made me wonder how much of what I buy is actually American. I have an Apple computer and iPhone, but how many are manufactured in the States today? It’s been years since I purchased Wranglers or Levis. Most of my clothes are made in Asia these days. Even the most iconic American brands seem to be manufactured overseas.
So, what’s left? Harley Davidson? Tesla? How long will Tesla last if Elon Musk continues to behave foolhardily? I saw that sales of Tesla in the last quarter had fallen 60% in some key European markets.
I understand that most of what we receive from the USA comes in the form of tariff-exempt services. America’s most significant “tariffable” exports seem related to the military-industrial complex, so perhaps this is just another play to fatten their overflowing pockets.
At the end of the day, the consumer always pays for a tariff. Therefore, if tariffs are applied to our goods in America, and presumably, we match their tariffs in the other direction, who suffers the most?
On the face of it, surely it’s the American consumer, not us. Or am I reading this wrong?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 6 Apr 08:08
It will be the American consumer. It has taken decades for the globalised model to he put in place. It`ll take just as long to unwind it, if that were ever to happen.
But along that way folk will become disillusioned with parties and put the other lot in, at which point things will get reversed again.
This is simply pandering for votes, but the people are too daft to realise that they are going to struggle, even as the world`s largest economy, to have any hard influence.
I think a lot of the Tesla parts will come from elsewhere and therefore cross borders and have tariffs applied.
That loony Sebastian Gorka was on Newsnight on Thursday giving a clear message that the tariffs were the end point and there were negotiations to be had (to reduce them).
I suspect the ongoing share volatility and the impact on 401Ks will mean they wind pack in a week or two.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Apr 10:25
That`s why these tarriffs won`t work and why they aren`t in place for economic reasons. If they are in place to encourage businesses and companies to bring manufacturing into the U.S that is a long term and expensive commitment. You aren`t going to commit to that if these tarriffs are going to be negotiated away or significantly lowered the day after you start building a multi billion dollar manufacturing plant.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 6 Apr 12:46
They reckon that the lower share prices will allow investors to scoop them up, then tariffs will be reduced or removed, share prices rise and investors are quids in!
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 6 Apr 13:33
"I have an Apple computer and iPhone, but how many are manufactured in the States today?"
It probably depends on what you mean by `manufactured`. Each of those devices will contain many electronic components and it`s very likely that they are manufactured in different countries around the world. I do electronic design, and a few years ago there was a serious component shortage and it meant that the only way you could reliably get a new board built was to order the critical parts yourself, in advance - if you did the usual thing of sending your design to an assembler and get them to buy the parts, buy the bare boards and do the assembly, you`d almost certainly find that some critical part had become unavailable by then and you wouldn`t be able to build anything.
It was interesting looking at the COO (Country of Origin) declaration that came with the components as they arrived. USA, Taiwan and China were the most common, but there were also parts manufactured in Phillapines and Korea. It made me realise that electronics manufacture really is a global thing - when people ask `where is that made`, the correct answer is probably `all over the world`.
It`s interesting that semiconductors from Taiwan now seem to be exempt from the 32% initially imposed. Many big US-based companies use foundries in Taiwan, and there simply isn`t the capacity in the US to do all of what they need. Without TSMC in particular, I`d imagine some of the big US companies would struggle to survive.
Post Edited (Sun 06 Apr 13:35)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 9 Apr 19:36
Trump dials back tarriffs on the rest of the world but pumps them up to 125% for China. His advisor Peter Navarro states that is all unfolding as planned and is beautiful.
I must admit as it stands just now it appears that the U.S is in full control of the situation as other countries scramble for concessions, dither about retaliatory responses and generally look weak. Meanwhile the one nation that took firm action looks set to be left without a chair once the music stops. China has now been flipped into a weaker position, at least superficially, regardless of what it does next. They either keep their own tarriffs against the U.S in place and see who crumbles first or they bend the knee and lower their tarriffs.
If this is how it plays out then Trump is a far smarter man than I gave him credit for.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 9 Apr 20:42
I don`t think he`s far smarter. He`s a gambler and a bullshyter. He`s playing every round of cards that appears in front of him and hoping it works.
I suspect they`ll both end up losing.
Or actually winning. Wouldn`t it be great to be in a position where you can drive the market and go short and long appropriately? Imagine how much money one could make.....
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 9 Apr 20:47
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Wed 9 Apr 19:36
Trump dials back tarriffs on the rest of the world but pumps them up to 125% for China. His advisor Peter Navarro states that is all unfolding as planned and is beautiful.
I must admit as it stands just now it appears that the U.S is in full control of the situation as other countries scramble for concessions, dither about retaliatory responses and generally look weak. Meanwhile the one nation that took firm action looks set to be left without a chair once the music stops. China has now been flipped into a weaker position, at least superficially, regardless of what it does next. They either keep their own tarriffs against the U.S in place and see who crumbles first or they bend the knee and lower their tarriffs.
If this is how it plays out then Trump is a far smarter man than I gave him credit for.
You think declaring a load of tariffs one day and then changing them a few days later is "unfolding as planned"?
The US is a mess. Most of the Western world is a mess. All in debt to each other and manufacture almost nothing of value anymore. Service economies are fine...until you realise how easy it is to offshore those jobs.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 10 Apr 13:39
Unfolding as planned? Let`s see, if the US had declared a 10% tariff on every nation then there would have been a response. As it was they declared far, far higher tarriffs on most nations and most nations were formulating an immediate retaliation. Now the US has said `no it`s just going to be 10% tariff on everyone but China`. Rest of the world sounds a sigh of relief `phew that could have been a lot worse, let`s cancel our counter tariffs` even though there is still going to be a 10% levy. That percentage is probably low enough that US companies will tell their foreign suppliers to swallow that increase by reducing their prices, essentially a flow of money from foreign companies to the US treasury.
Of course that still leaves a trade war between China and the US which will impact all of us. As the African saying goes, when two bull fight it`s the grass that comes off worse.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Thu 10 Apr 14:04
The EU has paused, not cancelled, its counter-tariffs.
The US stock market is still screwed, just a tiny bit less so than yesterday.
Trump didn`t think this through and was forced to blink by his financial masters.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 10 Apr 14:06
He wrote on his social media platform “Buy now!” a few hours before he backtracked.
Insider trading. He did it on purpose.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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