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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 09:50

How do Americans vote this guy in?

Wanting to takeover Greenland and the Panama Canal, by force if necessary.

Rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

And as for the Middle East, God help us!

My 80yr old Auntie (born and raised in Scotland) now living in Baltimore is a Trump fanatic, absolutely batsh*t for brains!
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 10:33

I don`t think foreign policy ranks very highly in the average American voter`s list of priorities. Their main concern is the size of their bank balance. Recent interventions by the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg don`t bode well for the next four years either.

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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 10:34

I don`t wish this to sound disrespectful or as a joke, but he may have diminished mental capacity. What`s worrying is the policy teams around him aren`t intervening.

The rhetoric from Trump isn`t much different to the crap we heard during brexit and we still hear from idiots like Farage. There`s a genuine debate to be had about asylum and immigration but all they want to do is drop little soundbites to excite the ignorant. They don`t have a plan to reduce asylum claims or to ensure high quality migrants.
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 12:36

I think what’s more worrying is the power and influence we’ve all given people like musk… and his ability with very little effort to impact our democracy

Edited to say that wee eck flagged social media owners above

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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 18:36

Quote:

DBP, Wed 8 Jan 12:36

I think what’s more worrying is the power and influence we’ve all given people like musk… and his ability with very little effort to impact our democracy

Edited to say that wee eck flagged social media owners above


Where do you drew the line? Members of both the Scottish and Westminster parliaments went over campaigning for the Democrats , will that backfire on British politics with the money available to Musk .

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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 18:49

Eh?

I’m talking about technocrats having way too much power to influence people and stir up / set the narrative of our parliament

I couldn’t care less about trump
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 18:53

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DBP, Wed 8 Jan 18:49

Eh?

I’m talking about technocrats having way too much power to influence people and stir up / set the narrative of our parliament

I couldn’t care less about trump


Reworded my post while you were posting
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 19:03

Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.

This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.

His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 20:47


‘Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.’

Elon Musk runs dafc.net?

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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 22:13

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Dave_1885, Wed 8 Jan 19:03

Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.

This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.

His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.


I think you underestimate the idiocy of people in the UK. They voted for Brexit based on a lie on the side of a bus
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Wed 8 Jan 23:11

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red-star-par, Wed 8 Jan 22:13

Quote:

Dave_1885, Wed 8 Jan 19:03

Musk literally runs a website that is based on peddling lies and fake news to stir up hatred.

This is why I feel he will not influence British Politics in the way he thinks he will - we arent all dumb f*cks like the Americans.

His only way in to the UK political scene was via Reform, and that seems to have ended as quickly as it started. He wont win over a majority within this country as the majority aren’t racist, knuckle dragging morons.


I think you underestimate the idiocy of people in the UK. They voted for Brexit based on a lie on the side of a bus


Then there`s fact they wouldn`t need a majority.

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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 06:23

He’s already in our politics, he just needs to post a few things on his platform and it sets the agenda over here, eg what is everyone talking about (again) this last week?
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 08:04

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DBP, Thu 9 Jan 06:23

He’s already in our politics, he just needs to post a few things on his platform and it sets the agenda over here, eg what is everyone talking about (again) this last week?


It`s not just Musk though. I recently ended up with TikTok on my phone ("thanks" Samsung). I don`t have an account but I went in and scrolled through my "For you" videos. Not going to lie that almost every video was propaganda against asylum seekers and Muslims. Not signed up, freshly opened. All they presumably know is my location and device.
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 13:07

That`s because TikTok knows the real , racist, bigoted, far right Jake89 that you do so well to conceal most of the time.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 14:18

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The One Who Knocks, Thu 9 Jan 13:07

That`s because TikTok knows the real , racist, bigoted, far right Jake89 that you do so well to conceal most of the time.


Wash your mouth out. Nuffink wrong wiv loving my country! My granddad didn`t fight in two world wars etc etc.
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 15:01

Jake, whether you agree with them or not, they are entitled to have their own opinion and follow what they think is best for them. As you do.

No need for the p*** taking.
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 Re: Trump
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 9 Jan 15:27

It`s hard to know what exactly Musk`s motive is and the FT have been investigating.

`According to the Financial Times, he’s serious. Anna Gross and Joe Miller report that Musk has “privately discussed with allies how Sir Keir Starmer could be removed as UK prime minister before the next general election, according to people briefed on the matter”. In their story, Gross and Miller say:

Musk, the world’s richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said.

“His view is that western civilisation itself is threatened,” one of the people added.

Musk has sought information about whether it might be possible to build support for alternative British political movements — notably the rightwing populist Reform UK party — to force a change of prime minister before the next election, according to associates.`

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