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Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan
Date: Sat 27 Jul 11:39
Trying to inject a little positivity into a depression...I`m adding 4 to today`s attendance. Me (first game of the season), my wife (first game for over 30 years), my son-in-law (first ever Pars game - he`s a Man Utd man) and my 6-year-old grandson (first ever game, and will be wearing his new Pars top). The wee boy is hyper excited, the wife less so...Hoping for a lot of goals for the Pars, which is probably very silly!!
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Topic Originator: parfection
Date: Sat 27 Jul 11:53
Good man. I hope you and your family enjoy the game. I’m going along today too with, I hope, a positive mindset - mind you, I go to all Pars games expecting, naively or otherwise, that we’ll get a positive result. 😀
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 27 Jul 12:19
I’ll be there along with my son. This is going to be our 5th game this season having been along to St Mirren, Dundee, Forfar and Livingston. Yet to see a goal so far, typical we missed the Spartans game.
Always looking for a reaction and hopefully it’ll be nice to play well, great chances and get a couple goals and end with a win heading into next weekend.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 27 Jul 12:19
Good to hear. The kids are tomorrow’s fans.
It should be an enjoyable game? Nothing at stake so both teams can play to win ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 27 Jul 12:58
I hope the wee fella enjoys the game.
Got to wrap the 1st team up in cotton wool today and let the fringe youngsters get some minutes surely.
Don`t want any more injuries and the opportunity to see the fringe players get competitive minutes doesn`t come around too often.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:07
Do you play the kids and perhaps lose or do you go with your best side and get a confidence boosting win before the league starts ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:09
if we win today it will do nothing more than paper the cracks unfortunately
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:23
We cant play the kids, they are playing Tayport at 2pm 😂😂
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:46
Driven down for the game and looking forward to it.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:49
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 27 Jul 13:07
Do you play the kids and perhaps lose or do you go with your best side and get a confidence boosting win before the league starts ?
I`d personally play the strongest 11 possible in a new system/formation.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 13:56
The manager needs a performance, he is edging closer and closer to the exit door.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:22
Looks like a back 4 at least
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:23
Quote:
FA1968, Sat 27 Jul 14:22
Looks like a back 4 at least
Dont be daft! 😂 Comrie will be at centre back and MOH wing back
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:26
4-4-1-1 but you might be right Dave
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:29
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 27 Jul 14:23
Quote:
FA1968, Sat 27 Jul 14:22
Looks like a back 4 at least
Dont be daft! 😂 Comrie will be at centre back and MOH wing back
It will be
O halloran Fisher bene Comrie ngenywa
Chalmers Hamilton
KRH Wotherspoon
Wighton
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:31
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Sat 27 Jul 14:29
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 27 Jul 14:23
Quote:
FA1968, Sat 27 Jul 14:22
Looks like a back 4 at least
Dont be daft! 😂 Comrie will be at centre back and MOH wing back
It will be
O halloran Fisher bene Comrie ngenywa
Chalmers Hamilton
KRH Wotherspoon
Wighton
Yup, but the easy thing to do would be play 4 at the back and MOH as part of the 3 behind Wighton……but thats too adventurous
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 14:50
Don`t be a fool man! We are playing the mighty Cove at home in a meaningless game. We can`t take chances......
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:01
the crowd today says it all if the board haven`t noticed before today then they should be now
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:02
Good on you ReturningParsFan .. I hope you all enjoy the game
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:03
What do you reckon it is?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:06
Quote:
LEGEND85, Sat 27 Jul 15:01
the crowd today says it all if the board haven`t noticed before today then they should be now
It says nothing. Meaningless game. I`m scraping weeds out my block drive but fully intend to go next week
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:08
It`s a nice day for it. If fans thought they were going to be entertained then they`d be there.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:21
Meaningless game or not , The crowd , or lack of crowd, should be a wake up call . Probably over a thousand extra paying punters would have gone if we had a chance of qualifying from the group . The s**show v Forfar will have cost us cash we can`t afford to lose .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:25
Kids on holidays just now won’t help the crowd size either.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:27
So far the performance would send you to sleep
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:28
Topic Originator: LEGEND85 like
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:27
So far the performance would send you to sleep
And that’s the main reason folk like me are not there. You just know it’s going to turgid to watch…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:34
fisher off injured not sure if he was feeling his hamstring
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:39
Quote:
LEGEND85, Sat 27 Jul 15:34
fisher off injured not sure if he was feeling his hamstring
A light squad made even lighter fantastic.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:42
Fisher is another one made of chocolate like more than half this squad, gets injured all the time.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:45
Quote:
hudza, Sat 27 Jul 15:42
Fisher is another one made of chocolate like more than half this squad, gets injured all the time.
He had injury problems before he came to us.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:47
Absolutely toothless up front
G.B
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:49
One up top, very little effort on goal. KRH playing out of position on the left and doesn’t look comfortable.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:51
Quote:
gordi-b, Sat 27 Jul 15:47
Absolutely toothless up front
Even the referee is uninterested, less than one minute added on. My buffering lasted longer!
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Topic Originator: vasco
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:53
That first half was like watching Scotland.
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Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:53
Safe to say none of our group are impressed. I`m actually shocked at how poor we are, totally lacking in confidence or ideas, players looking totally lost. Assuming Cove don`t improve, we could be looking at penalties, a wee bit of excitement for the wee boy!!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:57
Is it possible to just accept relegation now to save us the hassle of actually playing this season? There is absolutely nothing happening here. We could play for 90 hours instead of 90 minutes and still not score.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:58
Quote:
ReturningParsFan, Sat 27 Jul 15:53
Safe to say none of our group are impressed. I`m actually shocked at how poor we are, totally lacking in confidence or ideas, players looking totally lost. Assuming Cove don`t improve, we could be looking at penalties, a wee bit of excitement for the wee boy!!
Hopefully get the penalties and extra point at least some consolation :)
Unfortunately - that’s why a poor crowd those of us that were also at the other games especially Forfar at home saw exactly the same poor performance no real drive or motivation and mince tactics.
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 15:59
4-2-3-1, been in total control without creating very much.
O’Halloran had a few good runs at the defender.
Ngenwa playing very high up the pitch with Chalmers covering left back and has done nothing wrong but hasn’t done much when he has got the ball.
Wotherspoon not been in the game at all.
Mehmet could have had a deck-chair.
See much worse Pars teams.
Biggest gripe is that when we do get the ball into Wighton and he draws the central defender out, that’s when we need someone making a run in behind.
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Topic Originator: PeterHu50
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:00
Quote:
vasco, Sat 27 Jul 15:53
That first half was like watching Scotland.
And England
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:01
Crowd about 700 I’d say ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:04
Quote:
ReturningParsFan, Sat 27 Jul 15:53
Safe to say none of our group are impressed. I`m actually shocked at how poor we are, totally lacking in confidence or ideas, players looking totally lost. Assuming Cove don`t improve, we could be looking at penalties, a wee bit of excitement for the wee boy!!
Better not be, as much as my laddie would like it, we`ve got a train to catch.
The last time I was in the main stand, not that I`m suggesting there`s any kind of link, we beat Albion Rovers 6-0. Hopefully the second half will be better.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:09
Wighton has to score from chances like that.
Likewise O'Hallaran FFS.
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 16:10)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:10
I think the concern is that the season hasn`t really started yet and we are losing players to injury already.
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:10
Difficult choice for me today
I painted the bedroom radiator this morning so I could get to the game, but after thinking where the most entertainment would be I decided to stay at home & watch the paint dry!
So far sounds like the right choice
2022/23 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:16
First shot, 0-1 !
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:17
Mehmet at his best again
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:17
Terrible goal again, we are in serious serious trouble.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:17
But we trained well
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:18
Chocolate fingers at his best 🤡🤡we can’t even sun him
G.B
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:19
This team look like they know the script for this already.
I’d be more surprised if we finish top 8 than bottom 2.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:19
Manager has to go now
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:20
Quote:
FA1968, Sat 27 Jul 16:17
But we trained well
Thats the main thing and we will learn after watching the video back on Monday………………..
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:21
This is now an emergency and the Board need to act. Something needs done. This can`t go on or we will finish dead last.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Pringlebum8
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:21
They really need to replace this keeper now! Maybe keep him just for penalties ONLY!
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:21
Is Mehmet actually a Keeper? Has anyone carbon dated his gloves to see if they are real? We’ve had some poor keepers but I think he’s the worst we’ve had - way too many simple mistakes!
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:22
McPake said prematch
We want to use this game to score some goals, defend properly and win the game to make ourselves feel good for next week.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:22
That team is pathetic. It would be a mid table league one team at best.
It’s time for investment in the first team or we are a certainty to go down.
Thats as p*** easy a group as you could have wished for and we’ve been nowhere near qualifying even in second.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:23
Players, management team and board can all gtf
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:24
You can have a hopeless keeper if you score goals. We don`t.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:25
Hudza, we are heading to finishing dead last in the group fairly comfortably. It`s a shambles.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:26
Lost count how many times Mehmet has parried the ball out straight to an opposition player when he had easier oprions ,very poor
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:31
`We can`t even sun him` ,I don`t get it?
DrumRoad, is this a kelty poster? Is it my old chum Mr Dewar(a genuinely top bloke with a kind heart)? Or one of his kids perhaps. Or maybe it`s a guy from Chicago that likes to drum up and down his road.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:32
There`s no entertainment watching the pars. Play absolute mind numbingly boring football, concede terrible goals, struggle to score or even dominate games against weaker opposition. Barring major changes this club is headed back down to league 1.
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Topic Originator: vasco
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:34
Pars next goal will scored:
Today
V Livi
V Falkirk
This year
This season
2030
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:35
A lot of folk used to say (when we were horsed out of cups) that it was “just a diddy cup” and to “concentrate on the league matches”. Not seeing it this so far. What’s the difference?
Just a question. Dinnae shoot me.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 16:35)
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:37
Quote:
buffy, Sat 27 Jul 16:35
A lot of folk used to say (when we were horses out of cups) that it was “just a diddy cup” and to “concentrate on the league matches”. Not seeing it this so far. What’s the difference?
Just a question. Dinnae shoot me.
Over the years, we`ve not got a great record in the League Cup, always been slow starters
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:37
Maybe said about challenge cup but never once seen it said about the league cup.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:39
Quote:
buffy, Sat 27 Jul 16:35
A lot of folk used to say (when we were horsed out of cups) that it was “just a diddy cup” and to “concentrate on the league matches”. Not seeing it this so far. What’s the difference?
Just a question. Dinnae shoot me.
The league cup is never a diddy cup and is now also the main pre season warm up
The pars have consistently in the past got out of the group stages and the bonus of getting a premier league team / tv game in the next rounds and boosting the coffers - BEFORE the end of the transfer window cannot be overlooked
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:40
Quote:
Steviethepar2, Sat 27 Jul 16:39
Quote:
buffy, Sat 27 Jul 16:35
A lot of folk used to say (when we were horsed out of cups) that it was “just a diddy cup” and to “concentrate on the league matches”. Not seeing it this so far. What’s the difference?
Just a question. Dinnae shoot me.
The league cup is never a diddy cup and is now also the main pre season warm up
The pars have consistently in the past got out of the group stages and the bonus of getting a premier league team / tv game in the next rounds and boosting the coffers - BEFORE the end of the transfer window cannot be overlooked
Ps I’m not brave enough to shoot u down Buffy ;) but it’s a great debating point
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:41
Probably because the management said they wanted a good cup run!
Even on here folk go on about all these other teams last season got more prize money than us so we needed a cup run to generate more cash flow.
Or we have pretty much zero chance of winning the championship this season so a cup run would go a way to healing the failure of winning a league we really should be aiming to compete for.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:43
Been in Tescos for the last hour. Thank god. Might make it a weekly occurrence. Only upside is we have an academy to look forward to. Unbelievable
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:44
Oh help
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:45
Quote:
xgatespars, Sat 27 Jul 16:41
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 16:46)
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:45
Hope that TIFO for the Falkirk game is to tell Mcpake and the Germans to GTF
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:45
That`s got to be the final nail in the coffin for McPake. Get him out asap.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:45
It’s getting a wee bit funny now
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:45
On my way there Parfect69. Cat food aisle awaits me; and the Costa coffee machine 😊
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:46
Sack him tonight. Can’t risk going the first 6 on 0 points which is what’s going to happen.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:46
Anyone that can see us finishing anywhere else than the bottom of the championship is delusional. Spineless,clueless, classless.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:46
We’ve scored guys, even a 2-1 defeat is progress from the Forfar game
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:47
1-2 Sutherland
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:48
I don’t put all this on Mcpake. Yes his tactics are questionable, however this is absolutely at the boards door and the stubbornness to back him. They are stinking the place out.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:49
Quote:
Parfect69, Sat 27 Jul 16:48
I don’t put all this on Mcpake. Yes his tactics are questionable, however this is absolutely at the boards door and the stubbornness to back him. They are stinking the place out.
I`m sure this squad is good enough to beat Forfar and Cove?
If it isn`t then we need a lot more than a few signings
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:50
I`m not even arsed
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:51
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 27 Jul 16:50
I`m not even arsed
Absolutely this ^
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:53
Same 😊
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:54
If we had beaten the other teams in this group and lost to livi then I`d probably agree that it was the board not investing that`s costing us. But we`re getting beaten by teams who Mcpake himself have beaten comfortably over his time here, but for us to go on this horrible set of results is his inability to get the best out of the group of players he has.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:54
Quote:
Parfect69, Sat 27 Jul 16:51
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 27 Jul 16:50
I`m not even arsed
Absolutely this ^
Neither are the players, get a wage either way and Mehmet for another 2 years 🥳
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:54
Quote:
Parfect69, Sat 27 Jul 16:48
I don’t put all this on Mcpake. Yes his tactics are questionable, however this is absolutely at the boards door and the stubbornness to back him. They are stinking the place out.
If he hasn’t been given enough money to avoid back to back home defeats to Forfar and cove rangers, we might aswell just padlock the doors and not bother playing this season. The blame for those results lies at his door, he has to get more from this team than those pathetic perfomances.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:56
Oh but wait a minute, Spartans win our group and we beat them 3-0.
No, I have to say, even the most positive of us are hiding behind the sofa. Things are looking very bleak. Where`s the belief, where`s the pride?
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:57
Mehmet, Wighton,Chalmers, O Halloran, McCann would all be lucky to stay full time once they are finished with us.
Bene’s legs have gone.
Todd, Fisher, Breen, Kane are constantly injured.
When you invest nothin into the first team in years apart from Otoo n Hosler, you end up with a squad nowhere near good enough.
Mcpake looks and sounds like he’s done as well
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Topic Originator: Gadgie59
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:58
There will be no miracles here.
Museum of Modern Art - Edinburgh
East End Park - Dunfermline
“Football is a beautiful game,
It should be played beautifully.”
Brian Clough.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 27 Jul 16:59
I can`t see any of the current strikers scoring more than 7 goals this season.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:02
It`s bizarre the complete lack of ennui I have at us getting cuffed again. This club used to be akin to a religion for me, now it`s just meh, bah, gaaaar.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:02
Spartans (yes we beat them 3-0) top of the group
Some consolation — Livvy and the rovers are knocked out of the cup :)
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:03
1 win in 13 now, manager is to blame, his signings have been absolutely terrible.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:04
Saddest thing is apart from Tod and Kane, that is our best team. Oh we are going to be pumped every week.
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:05
Just relegate us now and save us having to watch that rubbish.
Zero up front, can’t cross a ball into the box, scared to shoot when the opportunity arises and a keeper that needs dropped ASAP
How is that kind of performance going to keep us in the league? Everyone else on league is scoring for fun. Fear next weekend and don’t get me started on Falkirk at home.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:06
At this rate we will be in the second division before we know it
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:10
Something has got to give very soon.
Whether that`s a big cash injection or McPake booted, something has to, surely !
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:13
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 27 Jul 17:05
Just relegate us now and save us having to watch that rubbish.
Zero up front, can’t cross a ball into the box, scared to shoot when the opportunity arisesand a keeper that needs dropped ASAP
How is that kind of performance going to keep us in the league? Everyone else on league is scoring for fun. Fear next weekend and don’t get me started on Falkirk at home.
Club on X:
“Effort from Ngwenya is just over the Cove goal”
“O`Halloran header from a Comrie cross”
“Wotherspoon passes to O`Halloran whose shot is blocked and then cleared”
“McCann effort cleared off the line”
“Sutherland effort cleared off the line”
“Sutherland turns in the box and fires into the Cove goal from a McCann pass”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:14
Look at it this way. Our away form is relatively good, and Livingston, like us, are on a downer. Somehow we get a bit of good fortune, a lucky goal or two, Mehmet saves 3 penalties and after one game we are top of the league. We start to believe and remember our last few games with Falkirk so we beat them and ----- sorry, I`ve just wakened up but what a pleasant dream.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:18
It’s says it all one up front against Forfar and Cove .
F muller
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:22
Worrying times our leader on the pitch looks as if his legs have gone one instance being left on his erchie near the touch line.
Team has no pace and structure to their play,Cove second goal was same as Livingston goal played between two centre backs.
Going to be a long hard season,only bright spark for me was Sutherland who took his goal well.
Any way season ticket was purchased early doors in the hope that manager and board could turn this season into a better one than last.
But it hasn`t transpired that way so far.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:24
I got my season ticket early as well to help with the players budget. It will be the last time. Getting fleeced by the current board is not my idea of fun.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:27
Rank rotten, a want some of that transparency we were promised.
Effe
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:37
Is it too late in the month to cancel a standing order? I`m not sure this team needs a "Lifeline" as it`s already flat lined.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:48
Was at the game, thought we were okay without creating much first half, cove didn’t touch the ball. Second half started with more intensity and was killed with another Mehmet blunder. Second goal really poor from the defensive pairing. Great goal from Sutherland before time.
Only positives I would take is that the back four is the way forward, much more width and without many chances created it definitely suits the players better. Another excellent strikers finish from Sutherland, carbon copy of Spartans but on his left this time. Mention for Ohalloran who when played in the right position looks more useful than we’ve seen of him.
Negatives… not enough created. Players letting the game pass them by. Denis Mehmet still plays for us.
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Topic Originator: Foxypar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 17:57
Will Ant and Dec now come out and say this has all been a prank because I cannot think of any other reason as to why this is happening!
From top to bottom this is stinking!!
I just wonder if McPake will be given a script in what to say for his post match interview because surely his response should be “that was p!sh”.
Also, if McPake goes then what decent manager would want to go to EEP?
The board are just full of rash and cheap decisions, followed by plentiful of excuses.
Another frustrating rant!! lol.
FP
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Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:02
Just home and trying to digest what I saw. Firstly, the grandson saw 3 goals. And heard lots of naughty words from his grandad!!!
Sutherland`s goal was beautifully taken, Mehmet sold the first Cove goal and the two central defenders didn`t cover themselves in glory for the second. Too many passengers, including the likes of Comrie, who I`ve always liked but who is now a very pale shadow of his former self. Wotherspoon was very disappointing, in what was a terribly negative midfield including Chalmers and Hamilton. Ngenywa wasn`t too bad and Richie-Hosler looked much better (as opposed to terrible) when he was eventually on the right wing. Otoo added strength to the midfield when he came on, definitely a player there. The rest? Probably covered by previous posts. I don`t think it was the formation that was at fault as much as players lacking confidence, being played out of position or not generally knowing their roles. The management takes a lot of blame for that. Very difficult to be positive about the league based on this.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:03
I`m not sure ,but the length of contract ans salaries is that not the CEO and boards call,
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:07
Reluctantly decided to go today, we’re in some serious bother right now, there’s no getting away from it.
First half started ok, plenty of the ball but with Cove starting with 5 at the back you just knew it was going to be a long day.
Best chance was probably O’Halleron who went on a mazy run however did too much with it and lost it when he should’ve taken the shot early.
Rest of the game, was just so comfortable for Cove, we are toothless up front, no pace to our play in the slightest.
Mehmet, think he thought he was one of those seagulls, flapped at the ball looking to punch the cross away when it was a simple catch. He’s had a part to play in a good few goals we’ve conceded already this season.
I said to my mate, Cove had no shots on target up until they scored but always looked most likely to score, figure that out but honestly felt like it.
Biggest concern for me is Benedictus, he just looks off it.
I don’t place all the blame on McPake, there’s something not right with the Board and it needs weeded out quickly.
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:10
Biggest surprise for me today was that there were 1000 people in attendance (from cows)
Genuinely can`t believe that many chose to watch what we are currently serving up.
Things need to change asap.
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:12
No way there was over 1000 there today. I heard we had sold around 700 tickets.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:14
How is the gate split, does it mean we have to pay Cove for the made up 300 tickets or at least half
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:16
1029 or something close to that was announced through the tannoy, another thing that was awful today from the Main.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:25
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 27 Jul 13:07
Do you play the kids and perhaps lose or do you go with your best side and get a confidence boosting win before the league starts ?
Well, that never went to plan
It’s going to be a tough week to pick the players up, but we have to get something from Livi. Can’t be going into the game against our six fingered rivals on the back of four defeats
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:29
What`s happened to captain Bene ,seems half the player he was ,doesn`t seem to be commanding as before,like he`s downed tools ,maybe he`s also as frustrated with the board not brining in quality
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:35
Put yourself in the shoes of the senior first team players.
You look at the league in the close season and you think we have genuinely got a shot at it if we can add some players? Our opponents are all pushing the boat out a bit but we have less players than we had last season.
Demoralising ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 18:36)
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:56
If it`s any consolation I had a lovely afternoon at the beach.
McPake has to shoulder a massive chunk of this. We have more than enough to be getting results against Forfar and Cove
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 27 Jul 18:57
Bene will no doubt be demoralised but would add that he has had more than his fair share of injuries over the years, he spent most of last season injured too, it could well be these are now catching up with him. There isn’t anyone reliable
At the back to bail him out either and certainly not poppadum hands between the sticks.
Shadow of his former self, like many others or to be honest many are playing like they usually do and it’s not good enough.
Not one player is in form, except maybe Sutherland.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:03
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sat 27 Jul 18:29
What`s happened to captain Bene ,seems half the player he was ,doesn`t seem to be commanding as before,like he`s downed tools ,maybe he`s also as frustrated with the board not brining in quality
Wasn`t at the game today. First time in a long time. My old man didn`t want to go either and he`s a man who would watch 2 dogs fighting over a tennis ball in the park. Last week however I could clearly hear McPake shouting bilious obscenities at Bene after the goal. There was zero reaction from Bene. It absolutely reeked of unprofessionalism and of a manger who doesn`t have a clue.
I suspect there was no reaction because Bene knows for a fact that McPake is going nowhere. The players don`t like the style or formations. There are some who definitely do not like being played out of position but know that it isn`t up for debate.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 19:03)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:15
About the easiest group to get out we`ve ever had (weakest top seeds, pretty poor seeds 3-5) in a cup the board were saying we were targeting as a revenue stream if nothing else and we are only not bottom of the section because Cove played an ineligible player. This is Cove who lost 5-0 at home to Spartans by the way. Getting out the group would have got us at least £60,000 plus ticket revenue and possibly TV money. Even coming second and not making it gets you £36k. Finishing 4th only nets you £32k. pihs poor crowd today plus that extra £4k... it all adds up.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:16
yet again same **** different day, so predictable on and off the park from McPake.
changes have to happen starting with him and his "staff", after that hope some wheeling and dealing can happen cause the squad whether its light or not is nowhere near good enough including the supposed "star" players.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:19
There is clearly something wrong when a FT championship side loses at home to part time clubs. There was nothing at stake in this game other than a bit of pride. That said, you want to be winning games as there is no pressure. I am surprised at the comments made by JM regarding confidence. I don`t really understand why FT championship players would be lacking confidence when playing against PT teams at home. If that`s true it really doesn`t bode well for the season ahead.
I agree with others, the first 6 games are going to be key. We need to get a few god wins under the belt. The challenge to a good start are the injuries we are experiencing so early on.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:34
Problem is GJS93, it looks like the budget is gone so there will be no "wheeling and dealing" even if we were to somehow find the money to lay off McPake, MacKay and the rest. Going by the interview after the game it`s a backup keeper and that`s ot for the league campaign and then cross all your fingers and toes we get some loans in.
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 19:35)
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:37
How did we use up the wage budget on 3 players when about 10 left/money for Josh
Effe
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:39
If they have no confidence just now.. lord help us when the league starts.
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:40
Quote:
Toddyrov, Sat 27 Jul 19:37
How did we use up the wage budget on 3 players when about 10 left/money for Josh
Maybe the ceo can tells us?
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:42
Can understand some of the negativity but there are folk who seem to just love booing about almost anything that goes wrong on the pitch. Far too early for the ott negativity that some are pushing. The players need to get support. We probably should have won today with the chances we had. And some players did well today.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 27 Jul 19:57
Quote:
pacifist, Sat 27 Jul 19:42
Can understand some of the negativity but there are folk who seem to just love booing about almost anything that goes wrong on the pitch. Far too early for the ott negativity that some are pushing. The players need to get support. We probably should have won today with the chances we had. And some players did well today.
But we didn`t that is 2 home games against lower league sides we have not been able to win and we are expecting to compete in the championship? Im sure most on here would love to talk about how good the club are doing but let`s call it for what it is and unfortunately that`s not good enough.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sat 27 Jul 19:59)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 27 Jul 20:53
"How did we use up the wage budget on 3 players when about 10 left/money for Josh"
Given the losses we probably made last season, this season`s budget will be a lot lower.
"Far too early for the ott negativity that some are pushing"
It`s not just losses this season though, is it? It`s poor quality of football last season (and the season before but we were winning), lack of signings, not having a reserve goalkeeper, finishing second bottom (would have been bottom had Cove not messed up by playing a suspended player) that we could have finished top in, we could go on...
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 27 Jul 21:04
I have always had a doubt about the actual fitness of our squad we seem to have a few who don,t seem to last 90 mins , also every opposition team are always out for a warm up way before us then we trot out do our bit then retreat do the dressing room .
G.B
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Sat 27 Jul 21:05
Can someone confirm if there was any hospitality today because all the boxes were empty ?
If so, why not, especially if we need money ?
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Topic Originator: galapar
Date: Sat 27 Jul 21:12
With the discussion of budgeting and such for this season I would be greatly surprised if the budget constraints put on Stevie C were remotely similar.
He worked with nothing and over achieved in reality.
Only saying
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 27 Jul 21:19
Surely Wee Eck and his cohorts have to admit the club is heading to the first division
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 28 Jul 04:51
This is approaching admin era pihs honestly. Honestly struggling to connect with the club nowadays
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 28 Jul 19:29
I’ll maybe give my thoughts on the management situation later, so I’ll restrict my comments largely to the game.
Overall it was another hugely disappointing performance and result and represents possibly our most abysmal League Cup campaign in 50 years?
Again we had no sub goalie. Why couldn’t we list Collier for emergencies? It would mean he couldn’t play for another club for 6 months, but he’s not going to do that anyway. Is he injured? McPake suggested that the absence of cover is an issue. And I can believe it – if Mehmet is concerned about being injured then it is going to affect his performance – he might hesitate to come off his line or decide to punch rather than catch. Arguably this cost us the goal against Livi and the first goal yesterday and thus may have lost, what, £60K?
We seemed largely to opt for the “give the first choice starters some game time and a confidence boosting win” strategy rather than the alternative “rest up the experienced players and give the youth a chance” alternative. This failed.
We did start with 4 at the back in a 4-2-3-1. O’Halloran on the right, KRH on the left, Wighton alone up front. This was a change and I thought it might herald a more positive approach rather than the usual “keep it tight, then slowly press on the gas” approach we’ve adopted against Division One sides previously.
After an encouraging run from O’Halloran early on I did wonder if we’d regret him losing composure and the ball at the critical moment and so it proved. Other than a late, weak header from the same player and a half chance for WIghton after a high press prompted an error, that was it for the first half.
More of the same before we lost the goal which prompted some decisiveness – off went 3 “older heads” and on came Sutherland, McCann and Otoo and we finally started to play with a bit of urgency. I wonder if mixed messages about the status of the game, essentially treating it as a glorified friendly had some effect. Now it seemed more like a 4-4-2 with KRH seeming more at home on the right and an actual forward pairing.
We created a few half chances but nothing particularly troubled their keeper, then Tod played a loose ball, Bene missed his tackle and there was a huge hole in the middle which they walked through.
The goal we did score was pretty straightforward – McCann passes to a colleague in the box, he creates space for a shooting chance, and he sticks it in the corner. Seemed pretty simple to me – why don’t we do that more often? Possibly because of the way we are set up – I assume that support for the loan striker is meant to come from the midfield and the wing-backs but it doesn’t always materialise.
Post Edited (Sun 28 Jul 19:30)
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 28 Jul 19:31
...continued
With the crowd being so low (and so quiet) you could hear the shouts of the players (they do shout a lot) and that provided most of what little entertainment there was. Bene was particularly vocal, which you’d expect as captain, and I guess this demonstrates his organisational qualities. He does seem to have slowed down a bit (maybe that’s why we normally give him two colleagues); Wotherspoon isn’t yet delivering (and is not lasting the games) both of which are concerning, as is Kane’s continued absence.
Not a lot to get excited about; more the opposite. Something needs to change, and soon.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 28 Jul 20:47
Wotherspoon is just another of Mcpakes failed signings, we only got him because every club knows he is done , we would have been better keeping Paul Allan at least he could last a game out
G.B
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