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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 30 Jul 17:07
The quality of players we still look to bring in may not be ready to sign.
They have a month to wait for their best option.
Could be money, coaching oportunities, length of contract or even location.
If they are experienced they will be looking to get the best they can before they are beyond their prime.
We probably have a few in the basket, and we just need to trust NL to get the best he can.
We could offer good wagez to less quality and get the signatures, but Im sure we are looking at better.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 30 Jul 18:10
Yup, I`m not sure who`s on the list, but it`s pretty reasonable to suggest that some on the list will be holding off to get the best deal possible for themselves. Hopefully it`s all sorted in the next week or two instead of waiting until the last minute. An experienced keeper and striker is all I`m after, anything else is a bonus.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: sjapar
Date: Wed 30 Jul 21:32
More should have been done to secure Dylan Easton . If we can’t offer better terms than the rovers , a think we are in trouble this season IMO . Call me a bed wetter or what ever you like . A hope am wrong but I see us bottom half of the table with this squad .
Sja
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 30 Jul 21:47
Quote:
sjapar, Wed 30 Jul 21:32
More should have been done to secure Dylan Easton . If we can’t offer better terms than the rovers , a think we are in trouble this season IMO . Call me a bed wetter or what ever you like . A hope am wrong but I see us bottom half of the table with this squad .
He was never signing for us, he bumped up what they had to pay him too, ffs he`s not young, how far do we push it?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Wed 30 Jul 21:50
sjapar wrote:
> More should have been done to secure Dylan Easton . If we
> can’t offer better terms than the rovers , a think we are in
> trouble this season IMO . Call me a bed wetter or what ever you
> like . A hope am wrong but I see us bottom half of the table
> with this squad .
>
>
Who’s to say we didn’t offer better wages? His heart appears to be with the Rovers so fair play to him he stuck with his Heart! Preseason is always about teams trying their younger players and if they aren’t ready putting them out on loan - players like Tobi and Johnny Kenny all got into the preseason teams but may not be ready for the step up so now’s the time they may get offered out on loan!
Stop being a bedwetter - we are in a far far better position team wise than we have been in the last 4 years at this juncture
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Topic Originator: Roger Daltrey
Date: Wed 30 Jul 22:07
Quote:
sjapar, Wed 30 Jul 21:32
More should have been done to secure Dylan Easton . If we can’t offer better terms than the rovers , a think we are in trouble this season IMO . Call me a bed wetter or what ever you like . A hope am wrong but I see us bottom half of the table with this squad .
Ridiculous post. Should we have handed Rovers a blank cheque? It`s not Football Manager.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 30 Jul 22:11
Dylan`s a good player and a nice guy BUT the numbers being bandied about were madness IMO. If it was 4 years ago maybe but not at 31. If there`s money for fees like what was being suggested for him then there must be other options out there.
Fair play to him though, he played the Rovers like a fiddle. Hope they`ve got that oven on as they`ll need to sell a few more pies.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Wed 30 Jul 22:32
Originator: sjapar like
Date: Wed 30 Jul 21:32
More should have been done to secure Dylan Easton . If we can’t offer better terms than the rovers , a think we are in trouble this season IMO . Call me a bed wetter or what ever you like . A hope am wrong but I see us bottom half of the table with this
You do realise he is/was under contract so what we offered to him means hee haw as the wee team would have to accept a fee first 🤔
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Thu 31 Jul 07:00
I may be wrong here but…
Do we think a manager of NL’s experience would have come to us without guarantees. He knows the market. Knows what’s required. I assume he has connections that he can tap into, he’s not going to broadcast his business.
We just have to wait. I don’t think we’ll be disappointed. May not win the league, but definitely be in a strong position at the end.
I’m actually looking forward to this season for the first time in many years!
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 31 Jul 07:23
Here`s hoping, par-ticular. I dont think I`ve seen or heard anyone talking about us putting in a title challenge. However, I think many fans, including myself, are yet to be convinced that we will be competing in the top half of the table. I`m sure we would all be delighted to be proved wrong. Let`s see how the first round of fixtures play out 🤞🤞
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 07:24)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 31 Jul 07:50
Quote:
neilholland999, Thu 31 Jul 07:23
Here`s hoping, par-ticular. I dont think I`ve seen or heard anyone talking about us putting in a title challenge. However, I think many fans, including myself, are yet to be convinced that we will be competing in the top half of the table. I`m sure we would all be delighted to be proved wrong. Let`s see how the first round of fixtures play out 🤞🤞
We are the bookies 2nd favourites behind St Johnstone
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 31 Jul 08:36
I`ll say it again, speak to any Hibs fan and they`ll tell you NL takes his time getting his signings and doesn`t go in willy nilly.
Patience.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 31 Jul 08:37
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 31 Jul 07:50
We are the bookies 2nd favourites behind St Johnstone
It`s probably just because we have a big support so more of our fans are putting money on.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC
Date: Thu 31 Jul 09:04
Easton has the type of quality that could have really helped in the short term, but would have taken minutes from Tod and Cooper who have both been standout performers in the cup group stage, and would eventually decline across the length of the contract he`d have wanted. He`s also not really a great fit for the current formation we are playing so would either be shoehorned in or amend the full shape to accommodate.
A bigger issue is the experienced striker slot. It`s now at a stage of pre-season where most clubs are 90% there with their squads and selling strikers in prime age probably isn`t in their plans. Oli Shaw makes a lot of sense given his goal record last season, his relationship with Lennon and Hamilton`s financial situation. Outside of that, Cosgrove (28) seems the best free agent but outside of Aberdeen he`s struggled to score at any club. It`s slim pickings and may be another scenario where we wait and see what business Premiership clubs do before picking up someone on loan. Watkins (34) managed just one start for Killie in the league cup and might be someone they look to offload. Bavidge (19) at Aberdeen doesn`t fit the experienced mould but looks ready to make the step up after a good loan at ICT. Or they may look to loan out Ambrose (23) but think Thelin rates him higher which makes sense. With a lot of clubs agreeing arrangements such as Ayr and Celtic, Raith and Rangers etc, it makes loans that little bit harder...
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 31 Jul 09:40
I stated around a month ago of my concerns with the size and makeup of the first team squad. A number of posters replied that there was plenty of time.
The league starts on Saturday and our squad still has the same weaknesses.
The fixtures in August look quite tough. A poor start would raise my anxiety levels even more.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 31 Jul 09:50
Have Raith set up an arrangement with Rangers?
We have acquired a goalkeeper from them, something that Rovers fans are screaming out for as their current keeper is apparently gash!
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 31 Jul 10:03
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 31 Jul 09:40
I stated around a month ago of my concerns with the size and makeup of the first team squad. A number of posters replied that there was plenty of time.
The league starts on Saturday and our squad still has the same weaknesses.
The fixtures in August look quite tough. A poor start would raise my anxiety levels even more.
After the last 4-5 years it is completely understandable for us all to have anxiety about the state of the squad. Talk of a promotion push is premature IMO.
I fully expect us to get another 3-4 players onboard before the window closes. No way Lennon would be manager without assurances on transfers. I agree we are very light in the final third and will need to get players in soon. Definitely need an experienced CB as well, Bene gives me the fear.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 31 Jul 10:24
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 31 Jul 09:50
Have Raith set up an arrangement with Rangers?
We have acquired a goalkeeper from them, something that Rovers fans are screaming out for as their current keeper is apparently gash!
It`s an odd agreement. They signed it a month ago I think but it`s us who signed a player on loan and had a pre-season friendly.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 31 Jul 10:27
Quote:
jake89, Thu 31 Jul 10:24
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 31 Jul 09:50
Have Raith set up an arrangement with Rangers?
We have acquired a goalkeeper from them, something that Rovers fans are screaming out for as their current keeper is apparently gash!
It`s an odd agreement. They signed it a month ago I think but it`s us who signed a player on loan and had a pre-season friendly.
Don’t the players have to be Scottish to be part of the co-op agreement?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Thu 31 Jul 11:41
U21 and have to be eligible to represent the Scottish national teams
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 11:41)
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:30
Steven Fletcher still available. Could still be a possibility?
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:30
I see us being no where near a play off with this squad, we still haven’t addressed the issues we had last year. Striker, cam, cb, and overall experience.
I do trust Lennon to improve some of other players however but pretty disappointed with what we have.
Effe
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:34
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Thu 31 Jul 12:30
Steven Fletcher still available. Could still be a possibility?
Hinting heavily at retirement recently.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:50
Saturdays game will give us an indication of where we are,Morton always a difficult venue.
I don`t think we will be anywhere near the playoffs.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:52
That chat around Jason Cummings seems to have disappeared.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 31 Jul 12:55
And also the bulgarian striker
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:08
Let`s be honest it`s not the exciting summer that was mentioned at the end of the season.
Can`t say the club haven`t spent money when you look at the pitch and even the new TV in legends these things aren`t free.
But for most folk it`s about the first team and like others have said key areas that needed to be strengthened at the end of last season have not been addressed.
Lots of early chat about us signing fantasy league players like Martin Boyle and James Forrest nobody really thought that was going to happen.
But how are we not in the market for Kevin Holt , Sam Stanton boys like this for example the club have shown a willingness to spend transfer fees and wages so we can compete.
We have 4 games in the league during August the last thing we want to be doing is playing catch like we have for a few seasons in the championship.
When was the last time in the championship we made a strong start and built some kind of momentum.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:12
The club don`t want to sign players who are in a certain age and wage bracket, I`m certain of that. But if between now and the end of August they surprise us then I`ll eat my hat 😋
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:15
just because a player goes to another club does not mean we were not interested, can only do so much to convince a player to join and there will be factors the club cant do anything about.
the squad is one of the largest in the league currently, is it good enough quality wise? no and even if there are a couple of "experienced" signings who i cant wait to see who they are i doubt it will be good enough to finish top 4.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:19
It may be that NL is looking at targets outside Scotland. If they’re coming from abroad, there’s issues with visas. Apparently, we were after Omade for some time before that was settled.
Totally agree about the top end of the team. Although Cooper and Andrew Tod have scored and look good, they’re still young, so is C Young. Chris Kane is terrific when he’s fit, so we will add.
If they’re targets in England, their season starts later, and it might be a while before squads are finalised - didn’t McPake say something last year about how 7 subs are increasing squad sizes and making it harder at our current level?
Keep the Faith!
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 13:27)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:33
I don’t expect us to be top two but top 4 should be achieved with the squad we have.
We look like scoring every game we play which is a major change from the past couple of seasons.
A 60/40 ratio from wins and losses plus draws would see us in the mix imo.
One decent striker is what we are crying out for and this could decide our fate.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 31 Jul 13:57
I think player wise all of our business has been good and should improve us over the next few years.
I still don`t think we`ve dealt with the issues we have had in specific areas of the pitch for the last few years though and I`m concerned about the style.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:06
We’re becoming a team with more potential than we had last season but it’s highly unlikely all the players we have with potential will go on to have great seasons and they will likely be inconsistent too.
At least the team is not packed with the same old players so we should see some improvement but I still think we’re struggle for goals.
Tod and cooper have shown they can do it against league 1 and league 2 clubs so far this pre season but the championship is a totally different beast.
Got to agree it’s a hard job for Lennon to turn this club around given the last few years of dross on the park, he last thing we need is to not get of to a decent start as we haven’t got that quality that counts in this league.
As it stands I’d take 6th and run to the hills, hopefully see some goals and positive attacking play from players who can control a ball in the final 3rd too would be nice.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:14
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 31 Jul 13:33
I don’t expect us to be top two but top 4 should be achieved with the squad we have
I can’t agree with that. I still think we need 3 or 4 starters.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 14:15)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:18
Bite your hand off for 5th with the current squad. I actually said that the past 2 seasons - got destroyed by the dot net mafia on both occasions 😂
We’re much closer on paper to a team that can push for playoffs. I don’t think the difference between a relegation team and a team pushing for playoffs is a big difference in the championship but I still think we’re 2/3 players short of being able to do it over the season.
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:37
It`s funny how memory can play tricks on you but we actually had a decent start to 2023-24, the season after promotion from League 1. Our first 6 results were-
Airdrie (H) -W 2-1
DU (A) - D 1-1
RR (H) - L 0-1
ICT (A) - D 1-1
QP (A) - W 2-0
GM (H) - W 3-1
That was 11 points and a goal difference of 9-5. It went a wee bit pear-shaped after that and then we had the `unprecedented injury crisis` which the management team should have anticipated and planned for apparently.
Good luck to all you guys predicting how the League will pan out before a ball is kicked and before the transfer window closes!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:39
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 31 Jul 14:14
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 31 Jul 13:33
I don’t expect us to be top two but top 4 should be achieved with the squad we have
I can’t agree with that. I still think we need 3 or 4 starters.
We’re not going to get 3 or 4 starters but expect one very soon.
Hopefully a striker.
In a league of ten teams where 4 are in the playoffs, I’d be very surprised if we’re not in that mix.
Aside from the obvious two you’re looking at the other teams like Ayr and possibly Raith being ‘our’ contenders for a playoff spot
I’d say we’re on their level just now.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:41
I think we’ve shot ourselves in the foot with the Easton bids. Teams & players now know we have cash to spare. Your £1000 a week striker will now have his agent in his ear saying “they were offering Easton £2k”
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 31 Jul 14:42
Agree with the comments regarding 3 or 4 signings.
We are still short in a few areas and they need addressed.
Centre Half, LWB, RWB and STR preferably players mid 20s.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 31 Jul 15:28
I genuinely don’t understand how people are tipping us for a top-four finish. Around 75% of the squad is unchanged from last season, when we clearly struggled. Our current goalkeeper has a history of being dropped in the Championship due to repeated errors. Cook described it as “a summer to remember” , but so far, it’s been flat.
We’ve added two players from Inverness League One (Gilmour and Bray), a released Celtic B player (Johnson), a part-time footballer from Ireland(Kearney), someone from the Bulgarian league (Amade), and a Dundee United youth reject (Macleod). I know that sounds harsh, but these aren’t the kind of signings that convince me we’re pushing for top 4.
As things stand, I see us battling in the bottom four rather than pushing for the top half. That said, there’s still a month left in the window, and I’m hoping we bring in two or three quality additions. Compared to us, clubs like St Johnstone, Ayr United, and Ross County have done some impressive business.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 31 Jul 15:45
It doesn`t really matter where the players come from it`s where the manager thinks they can aspire to that matters, and I think the ex-Celtic player`s name is Davidson rather than Johnson.
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 15:46)
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 31 Jul 15:49
It is Davidson, my mistake.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 31 Jul 16:02
Adamantpars
How can you possibly say we`re on the same level as Ayr and the Rovers, lol that`s ludicrous.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Thu 31 Jul 16:15
I still think with a good wind, we will make play offs. But that does depend on a new striker. Knowing the issues we had last year and that Kane is very injury prone, it had to be our top priority.
My guess Lennon has a few players on his list,but they are waiting to see what happens, happy with this but also don’t want to be 12 points down after August, as this sets a trend. We need the youngsters to step up, particularly Connor young, if this happens we could be a revelation. My worry is that we repeat stirlings first half performance and this forum start shouting Lennon out!
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Thu 31 Jul 16:21
Rangers and Celtic signing young players for Champions League.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Thu 31 Jul 16:46
I dont think we need another striker..........
All we need is one striker presently at the club to find a bit of form and we will have a strike force.
Macleod - Tod - Cooper - Kearney - Young
The doors wide open & the supply from the midfield will be there in abundance. Its up to one of them to grab the chance.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:13
Quote:
Angus_W, Thu 31 Jul 16:46
I dont think we need another striker..........
All we need is one striker presently at the club to find a bit of form and we will have a strike force.
Macleod - Tod - Cooper - Kearney - Young
The doors wide open & the supply from the midfield will be there in abundance. Its up to one of them to grab the chance.
I could be mistaken, but from the names you`ve mentioned, it looks like only Connor Young is an out-and-out striker.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:17
I see Derek McInnes is saying he`s happy with his incoming business now and is looking to trim his squad. This must be the case with a few Premiership clubs and maybe offers opportunities for clubs like ours.
Actually, mention of Hearts set me thinking about Barrie McKay. Wasn`t he out of contract at the end of the season? I haven`t seen anything about him signing elsewhere.
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:20
I imagine he meant Kane and not Kearney.
Anyway, out starting 11 for our first championship game last year (2-0 loss to livi) was:
Mehmet
Comrie
Fisher
Benedictus
Ngenwa
KRH
Hamilton
Wotherspoon
Otoo
Sutherland
McCann
Now we may not have the squad/signings we would have liked, but the team on Saturday is going to be a damn site better than that. Add in we had McPake tactics last season against Lennon now.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:27
Ross County 11/8, St Johnstone
and Dunfermline 9/2. Partick
Ayr and Raith Rovers all 10/1.
Who do you fancy to win the
League.
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:35
Kane and Macleod both out for Saturday according to Lennon in the courier
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:38
McLeod is out on loan to East Fife
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:39
My bad that`s Ewan
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:43
Interesting that Ross County are favourites - with the majority of their support deeply unhappy with Don Cowie and wanting him sacked. They had a pretty underwhelming league cup campaign - a draw with Stanraer and defeat to Patrick Thistke seeing them fail to qualify.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:45
Quote:
Geordiepar, Thu 31 Jul 18:20
I imagine he meant Kane and not Kearney.
Anyway, out starting 11 for our first championship game last year (2-0 loss to livi) was:
Mehmet
Comrie
Fisher
Benedictus
Ngenwa
KRH
Hamilton
Wotherspoon
Otoo
Sutherland
McCann
Now we may not have the squad/signings we would have liked, but the team on Saturday is going to be a damn site better than that. Add in we had McPake tactics last season against Lennon now.
Only two of those will likely strat on Saturday, Bene and Otoo. Yet people say we’ve not had big enough changes.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 31 Jul 18:53
While the manager continues to search for striking reinforcements, he doesn’t expect any new arrivals before Saturday’s match. The manager remains patient in his approach to the transfer market, emphasising the importance of finding the right profile of player within the club’s budget constraints.
“Obviously, you speak to agents, you speak to clubs. There might be fees involved, there might not. Then there’s wages and working within the budget that we have,” he explained. “There’s a lot of t’s to cross and i’s to dot as you know. It’ll come, I’ve no question. I’m really confident that we will get strikers in.”
https://dafc.co.uk/manager-previews-morton-4/
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Thu 31 Jul 19:21
5th would be good for me this season, hopefully we`ll be away from danger, and maybe some goals, rome wasn`t built in a day.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 31 Jul 19:37
Badly lacking firepower and defensive cover this weekend - especially with Kane and McLeod being out injured. I really hoped we’d have a striker in for Saturday. Hopefully Tod can continue his league cup form against his hardest test yet. It would be great to see things click for Young as well. Hopefully he can show his potential this season.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 31 Jul 19:44
Quote:
Gaz3822, Thu 31 Jul 16:02
Adamantpars
How can you possibly say we`re on the same level as Ayr and the Rovers, lol that`s ludicrous.
Because we are.
None of these two teams are great shakes and we have improved in our team and attacking performances.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 31 Jul 19:52
Saturday will be a very good barometer of where we are.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 31 Jul 19:55
We cant trust Kane to remain uninjured (obv not his fault but he is very injury prone) therefore as much as i like him he cant be regarded as a definite starter! Young and the Sutherlands are largely untested at this level, therefore i do see a need for a tried and tested striker backed up with a decent CAM before we can start even thinking we are a decent team
Post Edited (Thu 31 Jul 19:55)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 31 Jul 20:19
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Raymie the Legend, Thu 31 Jul 19:52
Saturday will be a very good barometer of where we are.
We have to start games better. One of my gripes about the cup campaign.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Thu 31 Jul 20:27
I think we`ve done some really smart business this summer and I think next season we could see the fruits of it in terms of a title challenge. This year I`d be very happy with being around top 4. However, I can`t believe we`re going into a season with Bene and Kane being our only options in key areas.
Enough has been said about Kane, I think it`s clear Bene isn`t far off retirement or stepping down a level, he has moments of getting turned inside out pretty often now and who knows what`s happening with the court case. Up against championship level attacks with J Tod and JCM as well as they`ve done could go very wrong very quickly especially with a 19 year old goalie behind them.
We may make 4/5 starting level signings. x2 strikers, attacking left sided player, CB in which I`d be very happy with but that looks a way off now. I think Cook shot himself in the foot with the whole "summer for having a go" p*sh, it all sounded really positive and I think most would agree we`re pretty disappointed now, I think that was a really stupid thing to come out with and I`ll take what he says with a pinch of salt going forward (as if I didn`t already)
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 31 Jul 20:52
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 31 Jul 19:44
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Gaz3822, Thu 31 Jul 16:02
Adamantpars
How can you possibly say we`re on the same level as Ayr and the Rovers, lol that`s ludicrous.
Because we are.
None of these two teams are great shakes and we have improved in our team and attacking performances.
Raith`s attacking lineup: Vaughan, Jack Hamilton, Connor Smith, Paul McMullan
Ayr`s front line: Anton Dowds, Kurtis Main, George Oakley, Dom Thomas, Jamie Murphy
Looking at the attacking options, especially Ayr’s, I’d say they’re in a stronger position than us at the moment.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 31 Jul 21:16
Connor Smith plays for Hamilton. His brother, Callum, plays for Raith but is recovering from a long-term injury I think, as is Anton Dowds. Maybe they`re injury prone. The grass always seems to be greener elsewhere for some fans.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 31 Jul 21:18
Patrick too with Tony Watt supplied by Lawless, Chalmers and Fitzpatrick
They could do with another decent striker too mind you.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 31 Jul 21:34
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wee eck, Thu 31 Jul 21:16
Connor Smith plays for Hamilton. His brother, Callum, plays for Raith but is recovering from a long-term injury I think, as is Anton Dowds. Maybe they`re injury prone. The grass always seems to be greener elsewhere for some fans.
Wee Eck’s caught me out again 😂. Smith and Dowds coming back from long-term injuries will feel like new signings for them this season. Both good players.
All I’m saying is their attacking options look pretty strong compared to ours. Looking ahead to the weekend, we’re likely going with Cooper, Tod, and Young up front — and that’s an area we’ve been weak in for a while.
There’s still a month left in the window, so we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. I guess I’m just a bit disappointed. Based on Cook’s statement, his words were this is a summer where we really had a go. Maybe I’ve just read more into it than he intended.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 31 Jul 21:36
We release 17 players either due to end of contract or loan spells at the end of the season. Our recruitment since then has been solid. NL has stated that he wants to bring in a few more but recognises the challenges in dealing with players, agents and the available budget.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 1 Aug 04:59
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Raymie the Legend, Thu 31 Jul 19:52
Saturday will be a very good barometer of where we are.
It`s only one game, but it`s important to make a good start. I remember a season in the top flight when we played Aberdeen, Celtic, Hearts and Rangers in our first 4 fixtures. We lost every game by the odd goal and ended up being relegated.
3 pts tomorrow would be brilliant - a draw would be acceptable.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 1 Aug 08:34
We look a better outfit than last season but tbh that would not be difficult.
I have no idea how we will do this year but the current squad will struggle. It is imperative that we get some bodies in soon.
We were promised 4/5 more and that was said by Lennon after we had signed Gilmour and Amade. Since then we have signed a 19 year old who did not have a goal to his name a 19 year old who has not played full time before and a 19 on loan that has played only one senior game. I hope they al do well this season but we all know that young players need managed and will have periods when they will be benched or rested.
The concerning thing for me is that the rhetoric has changed. From four or five to a couple with the caveat of “ available budget” being said for the first time..
Our season is going to be defined by who we bring in before the window closes. It would have been great to have a settled squad by now but better late than never I suppose. Just hope we get off to a decent start whilst we are still a few short.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 1 Aug 09:38
Did you really think we were operating without a budget? How irresponsible would that be?
NL, with all his experience as a player and a manager, understands how the transfer window works better than a lot of fans.
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Topic Originator: BigTpar1986
Date: Fri 1 Aug 09:44
I don’t think highlighting the fact the first time “ budget “ is mentioned means anyone thought there wasn’t one.
It’s just concerning for people that it hasn’t been mentioned when the very apparent positions that needed filled remain empty. Anyone saying otherwise need to give their head a wobble.
To enter the new season with no senior back up to Kane and Denis potentially still number one is borderline betrayal for season ticket holders promised a big summer and title push.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Fri 1 Aug 09:59
I fully trust Lennon and I think it’s only right that we do trust him. We can all guess at what’s going on but none of us really know. He’s a football guy, with a big reputation in the game, certainly here in Scotland, and first and foremost he will want to protect that…..I’m sure we all know that.
I found it interesting because one of his early interviews (after being confirmed as permanent manager) he spoke of how the owners and the board like his reputation of working with youth players, not just at Celtic but at Hibs as well, so it was obvious then what the plan was.
He has spoken of “experienced players” so it’s very much what he sees as being missing from the First Team. I don’t think we were ever looking at the Scottish free transfer market, I have said that on here more than once, so the experienced pros that he wants to get in are either contracted at clubs already or are “abroad”.
It then begs the question of where are they. I don’t think we have necessarily got the players he wanted, for whatever reasons, but also there might be other reasons why. As an example, say he was after player at Hearts, well it’s only now that Derek McInness has said he is happy with the size of his squad and they will need to move players out, for that to happen….does that make sense??
It might be, that we are just not getting the lads in, but rather than go for someone like Tony Watt, who Lennon feels does not offer value for money or would have a positive impact in the team, he feels he would rather give someone like Andrew Tod the opportunity for now.
I’m maybe rambling on a bit here, but all I’m saying is, and it’s what I have been saying all summer. Lennon and Co know what we need, we has supporters can see it and they can as well, he’ll want this job to go well for his own reputation, so we just need to accept that things are being worked on and the required quality has not been brought in because it’s not been possible, but it will happen in time (incremental steps was it not).
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 1 Aug 10:15
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Fri 1 Aug 09:38
Did you really think we were operating without a budget? How irresponsible would that be?
NL, with all his experience as a player and a manager, understands how the transfer window works better than a lot of fans.
Of course we have a budget………..every club does. Read my post……….I said it had never been mentioned before and here we are, still three short….at least….of what we have been told and now the budget is being mentioned which leads me to think that the goal posts have been moved. I mean we had a budget for Easton AND two strikers so presumably we have plenty left for just the two strikers that NL has said he wants……..so why mention budget constraints at all ?
Could be wrong of course and we will make two whopping signings in the next couple of weeks.
But is fair to say that ninety percent of Pars fans were not expecting us to be starting the season with no experienced striker or CH signed by now.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 1 Aug 10:23
I was on the golf course through the week, with a good friend of mine, who is a big Celtic fan. We opined that both clubs appear to find themselves in similar situations.
Both have top class managers for the leagues they are in.
Both knew well in advance what positions needed strengthened.
Both clubs not short of a bob or two.
Both clubs linked with a number of players.
Both clubs have so far, largely brought in young and/or unproven players.
Both managers rely on others to do the negotiations and contracts.
Both sets of supporters becoming increasingly frustrated.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 1 Aug 10:38
If you appreciated we have a budget I don`t understand why you seemed to be surprised NL mentioned it and why that suggests `the goalposts have been moved`. I think Buster Brown`s interpretation of the situation is probably pretty accurate.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 1 Aug 10:44
The thing is, Raymie, I get the impression NL isn`t surprised at the position we`re in because he knows that`s how these windows work. Fans get frustrated no matter what level their clubs are operating at.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Fri 1 Aug 11:07
I think it`s the natural outcome of a window closing after 4 matches. What if we signed someone for the start of the season that turned into a flop? I`d bet 80% of the same people complaining now would redirect their complaints at us rushing too quickly. Clubs can`t win sometimes and I suspect we don`t know the half of what goes on behind closed doors with negotiations and near misses.
It`s not like we can just log onto the big striker shop online and order one.
I`m generally happy with the direction the club is going in and enough signs that we`re being properly coached now. Good times ahead but these things never go in a straight line.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Fri 1 Aug 11:10
Meanwhile the club launch a new hospitality thing, presumably in ongoing attempts to diversify income, and within ten minutes there`s 5 replies on X > all sarcastic or negative.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 1 Aug 11:13
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Rusty Shackleford, Fri 1 Aug 11:10
Meanwhile the club launch a new hospitality thing, presumably in ongoing attempts to diversify income, and within ten minutes there`s 5 replies on X > all sarcastic or negative.
I’ve seen that, Rusty. The refurbished box looks nice, but I wonder if there will be a premium for this? I noticed last season, on a number of occasions, boxes not sold. I’m wondering why this is, as the lounge is pretty much a sell out every game? It can only be cost, I presume?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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