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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 23 May 11:02
from the Daily Record
"Dunfermline Athletic are bracing themselves for a string of English bids for Josh Edwards.
Charlton Athletic, Bristol Rovers and Barnsley all want to sign the Pars defender.
The Fifers are set to net a six figure fee for Edwards.
The English League One trio are all keen to try and thrash out a deal for when the transfer window opens.
Dunfermline triggered an extension that will keep him at East End Park for next season.
It protects the Pars financially and they are likely to sell in the summer rather than run the risk of losing him on a free transfer this time next year."
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 23 May 14:15
Best of luck to him if he goes. He has been a great servant to the club.
We will need two left backs then if he does go…..Surely Fenton was worth a shout at least for the jersey….management obviously thought otherwise..
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Thu 23 May 15:13
Courier reporting the club has turned down a six figure offer from Charlton. Hopefully can get some sort of bidding war going now
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Thu 23 May 15:29
I have a funny feeling he may stay another season. But if he goes he will be a big miss without question. He`s been thee guaranteed name on our teamsheet for what feels like forever. Let`s see how this pans out. I`m confident a replacement has been lined up if he is to go.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 23 May 15:32
It would be a shame to see him leave but think we`ve known for a while he`s going at some point. Hopefully a decent offer comes in and it`s structured in a way that allows McPake to strengthen now.
There are quite a few very good left backs in our league.
Harry Milne at Patrick I thought looked good, particularly going forward in the playoff games.
Cameron Harper at ICT has looked decent against us and the stats possibly back up his quality. His side has the 2nd fewest goals conceded, and he personally has 12 goal involvements this season.
Mason Hancock, more of a left sided centre back, but has been excellent against us this season, particularly in the game in March at east end where we barely managed a clear chance and lost 2-0.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC
Date: Thu 23 May 15:38
Cameron Harper and Lewis Strapp both out of contract, Morton already offered reduced terms to Strapp which he has rejected and Harper unlikely to stay at ICT after being relegated. Have to get one of the two if Edwards is sold.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 23 May 15:49
Should be able to offer Edwards` wage ( plus a little more, if needed ) from the sale and still have enough for two more players?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 23 May 17:18
"We will need two left backs then if he does go…..Surely Fenton was worth a shout at least for the jersey….management obviously thought otherwise.."
more than likely it will be one plus someone who can play there if/when required.
Harper will have bigger teams than us after him, presume McMann would be the same.
Strapp has the long throw but is a no for me.
Milne no chance, Hancock guessing the same for what Airdrie would want for him.
might have to look further afield if its a permanent signing, if it was a loan, Anderson at Celtic springs to mind.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Thu 23 May 17:19
Cameron Harper has played well any time I`ve seen him play and he`s a good age for development. The thing is the club have known about the interest in Josh for quite a while so you`d think they`ll already have some idea about who they`d like to bring in.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 23 May 17:27
No doubt he will be away in the summer and good luck to him. He deserves it and fits with the ethos of developing players. It opens the door for others to to come in.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 23 May 20:59
Strapp would be a very good replacement for Edwards. He also has a long throw which seems to cause more issues than Josh’s.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 23 May 22:20
If he goes will probably get 5x the salary he is on.. good luck to the lad.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Fri 24 May 06:24
The lad has clearly worked incredibly hard during his time here. Many wrote him off early after a few dodgy performances, one in particular against Alloa. But he`s made that spot his own, good luck to him.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 24 May 08:20
Hibs had their eye on him for a while .. I don`t know if they are still Interested
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sat 25 May 15:18
My mate from Barnsley has just asked me about Josh.
They are valuing him at £250K.
Would take that with a decent sell on clause.
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sun 26 May 14:06
Charlton Athletic are hoping to agree a deal for Dunfermline defender Josh Edwards in the coming days.
A report in Scotland claimed that the Scottish side had rejected a six-figure bid for the 23-year-old but that was wide of the mark – both in terms of the size of the offer tabled and also the fact it had not been turned down.
The South London Press has been told that Charlton will look to reach an agreement for Edwards by the end of this week.
Edwards has one more year left on his contract at Dunfermline.
And the League One outfit are also in negotiations with Luke Berry, who is not being retained by Luton Town.
Charlton boss Nathan Jones has talked about wanting the vast bulk of the club’s transfer activity completed before his squad return to pre-season training.
The Addicks have already triggered an option in Thierry Small’s contract to extend the former Southampton and Everton defender’s deal until next summer.
Edwards plays in the same position as Small but can also operate in left midfield.
He scored three goals and claimed eight assists in 36 matches in the Scottish Championship last season.
Edwards has played 182 matches for Dunfermline and previously was on the books of Airdrieonians, featuring 39 times for them.
Barnsley saw a bid rejected in the January transfer window for Edwards.
Dunfermline boss James McPake, talking at the time, said: “For what Josh is worth to us and what he can do, the club knocked that back. It shows real intent from them as well.
“Keeping Josh was very important, for what he does in the team. He could get injured, that’s just the way football is, but a player of his profile is really hard to find.
“And the way he plays that left wing/left wing-back role, I don’t see many like that out there.
“It was very important we kept him. He’s performing at a really high level.
“I’ve said to him, the moves will come for him.
“If he keeps doing what he’s doing for us, he’ll go and have fantastic career because he’s doing everything right.
“He’s training right, he’s working right and he’s looking after himself right.
“He’ll deserve whatever comes for him in football, but we’re delighted to keep him.”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 26 May 14:17
Greg Shields went from the Pars to Charlton Athletic 25 years ago. I think the fee then was £600k!
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sun 26 May 14:39
I`m sure the South London press has their finger on the pulse of what`s happening in Fife.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Sun 26 May 15:58
if he goes we should get Mcmann from Dundee United
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 28 May 09:28
Couple of reports that there is actually a release clause, which became active when we triggered the year extension. 90k, if the story is to be believed.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 09:32)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 28 May 10:14
So, we turned down a six-figure sum last season but triggered an extension which included a release clause for a smaller sum?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 28 May 10:17
If we triggered the extension after the window closed, it is feasible.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 10:18)
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 28 May 10:21
Nah. I am betting that our club will net 300k plus.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 28 May 10:42
Any deal will be more centred around the sell on fee as opposed to the cash upfront
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 28 May 14:22
Charlton seem pretty confident they’ll have a deal all wrapped up by the end of the week. Report says they’ve jumped ahead of Blackpool to sign him. Also noticed on the article it says Brad Holmes has been released from Blackpool….really hope we’re not looking at bringing him back.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 14:23)
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 28 May 14:47
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 28 May 10:14
So, we turned down a six-figure sum last season but triggered an extension which included a release clause for a smaller sum?
I think we may have sold him in January if our league position wasn`t so precarious?
It doesn`t seem unreasonable to have rejected a £100k offer but reached an agreement for him to leave in the summer? It would have cost us a lot more than 10k if we were relegated.If we set the fee too high, then he can just wait for 6 months and sign a pre-contract elsewhere and we end up with nothing so it`s a balancing act.It also depends what has been promised to the player.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 28 May 17:50
Last year of contract, selling club lost £1m last year.
Expecting fee to be £150k, maybe £200k if we’re lucky.
Back to being drenched in my own negativity….
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 28 May 18:41
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 28 May 17:50
Last year of contract, selling club lost £1m last year.
Expecting fee to be £150k, maybe £200k if we’re lucky.
Edited....misread your post
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 19:25)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 28 May 20:40
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 28 May 17:50
Last year of contract, selling club lost £1m last year.
Expecting fee to be £150k, maybe £200k if we’re lucky.
Factor in the fact another two clubs, at least, want him. Does that raise it a bit, or is that too positive for you to cope with?
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 28 May 23:23
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 28 May 20:40
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 28 May 17:50
Last year of contract, selling club lost £1m last year.
Expecting fee to be £150k, maybe £200k if we’re lucky.
Factor in the fact another two clubs, at least, want him. Does that raise it a bit, or is that too positive for you to cope with?
Who sh@t in your bird seed?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 28 May 23:27
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 28 May 23:23
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 28 May 20:40
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 28 May 17:50
Last year of contract, selling club lost £1m last year.
Expecting fee to be £150k, maybe £200k if we’re lucky.
Factor in the fact another two clubs, at least, want him. Does that raise it a bit, or is that too positive for you to cope with?
Who sh@t in your bird seed?
Nothing significant. Just a little tit.
Actually I meant to put a winky face up. I didn`t mean to be belligerent.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 23:27)
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 28 May 23:51
Tbh I sort of agree with berkey 150-200k is what I thought to but only due to the utter contempt some clubs in England show the Scottish game
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 29 May 01:20
A high six figure deal and a three year contract has been agreed in principle, according to EFL hub
Not sure what high six figure could be? £250k?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Wed 29 May 01:28)
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 29 May 01:43
Surely, 250k would be a “low” six-figure sum, Raymie? Anything over 600k might be regarded as a “high” six-figure sum, I would have thought.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 29 May 06:04
I would have thought so too, but in excess of £500k seems an awful lot ?
We will have won a watch if that’s the case and should fund the transfers we want ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Wed 29 May 06:04)
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Wed 29 May 08:26
“Charlton Athletic are frontrunners to complete a deal for the in-demand Scottish Championship star.
Charlton Athletic are poised to beat League One rivals Bristol Rovers and Blackpool to bring promising Dunfermline defender Josh Edwards to The Valley in a significant coup for the London outfit.
The South London Press reports that the Addicks hope to have tied up a deal for the 23-year-old `in the coming days` with negotiations currently focused on a serious Addicks bid, believed to be just short of the £1 million price tag rumoured to have been placed on the defender.”
This quote came from a London newspaper
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 29 May 08:37
If he goes to Charlton he`ll still be going "Into the valley". I`ll get my coat...
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 29 May 08:53
Quote:
EastEndTales, Wed 29 May 05:41
5 quid a pint sounds mental. Is that the average nowadays?
Just short of £1m?! Surely not?
I know hes been a stalwart for the last 2/3 years, but is he really worth that sort of sum going into last year of contract?
Before the onslaught comes, Id have been happy as the board for £250k plus add ons, so that would be a staggering sum!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 29 May 09:02
Football transfer fees are crazy but £1m for someone who can`t be relied on to deliver a decent cross seems excessive.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 29 May 09:10
Cameron Harper is wanted by Tranmere, Chesterfield, Shrewsbury and Huddersfield.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 09:22
So in the space of a week we`ve had figures reported from journos and random Twitter/X accounts ranging from 90 grand and a million quid. 😂
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 29 May 09:51
If you look at the astronomical figures that are being spent on players these days in England I don’t think just shy of £1m is that crazy.
You’re paying for an established left back/wing back at a young age with bags of potential who is currently under contract.
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Topic Originator: Scrimmers249
Date: Wed 29 May 10:32
So i guess it will be somewhere in that range :-)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 29 May 10:37
A Million quid? 😂😂
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 10:39
I can`t see it being anywhere near 500k let alone 1m. Probably 200k plus 25-35% any higher than that and there won`t be a sell on.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Wed 29 May 10:48
Wee eck throwing digs about Edwards weakness but takes offence if anyone says anything about chalmers or o’halloran 😂
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 29 May 10:56
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 29 May 10:48
Wee eck throwing digs about Edwards weakness but takes offence if anyone says anything about chalmers or o’halloran 😂
Woosh
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 29 May 11:06
wee eck being mischievous. The clue was wee eck critiquing a player :-)
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 29 May 11:09
I forgot - I`m a happy clapper. I`m not allowed to criticise anything about the club.
By the way, could Airdrie be entitled to part of any transfer proceeds for Edwards?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 11:14
I DM`d the Courier journo:
Hi mate, off work just now. I`m also not covering Dunfermline anymore but from what I understand there is a £90k release clause for a certain period. I`m afraid I can`t give any more clarity in where the six figures is coming from.
Thanks for the info Craig. Some wild transfer fees are being bandied about!
As I say, the release clause is only for a couple of weeks period or something, so maybe they`re trying to get it done before/outwith that.
What I get from that is David Cook has turned his phone off 😂
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 29 May 11:16
90k would seem a stupidly low release clause for any player, particularly one who is young and could develop into something special.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 11:18
If it is a higher than expected fee then its safe to say that dave Cook is earning his salary
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 11:18
That`s why players have agents.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 29 May 11:23
A million quid. He will be able to buy new socks with that money….then cut the holes out of them too.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 29 May 11:29
Quote:
Jeffery, Wed 29 May 11:16
90k would seem a stupidly low release clause for any player, particularly one who is young and could develop into something special.
Not for a player that could sign a pre-contract for nothing in 6 months.The player has also maybe been promised a move for not leaving in January.Fair play to him as there are other players who would have been `injured` or downed tools. He is a decent player but is 24 now and there are still attributes to his game that need working on.
As seems standard now, the fee will no doubt be `undisclosed` so we will never know.I assume Airdrie will have inserted a sell on clause too.
Post Edited (Wed 29 May 11:30)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 11:47
From what I can work out. There is a 90k release clause that is only active for a set period after the contract extension was triggered. Race is on for Charlton or any other club to meet Dunfermline`s demands in terms of how that deal is constructed.
As Parathletic says, it will be undisclosed and we`ll never know.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 29 May 12:46
I think if only one team wanted him, he might have gone for much less, but just short of a million isn`t crazy with several English teams chasing him.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 29 May 13:11
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 29 May 12:46
I think if only one team wanted him, he might have gone for much less, but just short of a million isn`t crazy with several English teams chasing him.
He has to want to go to the team that bids the highest though. You can`t just send him off to the highest bidder-it sounds like there is a clause in place anyway.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 29 May 13:23
He is worth what someone is prepared to pay. They obviously see something in him. He has potential, and from their website, they have referred to that and will develop him. I would have thought that at his age, it`s a good move for him. Good luck to him. He deserves it.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 29 May 13:41
Much like Comrie on the other flank, his attitude and work rate have been exemplary
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 13:45
It`s funny how Edwards at 24 has potential but Allan at 24 is at his peak.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 29 May 14:15
Quote:
weemike, Wed 29 May 13:45
It`s funny how Edwards at 24 has potential but Allan at 24 is at his peak.
And move Allan on and bring back Byrne???
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 29 May 14:30
He’s no’ sure if we’re getting a million for him - but I telt him he was worth it 😉
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 29 May 15:02
Quote:
weemike, Wed 29 May 13:45
It`s funny how Edwards at 24 has potential but Allan at 24 is at his peak.
How is it funny? some players have it in them to keep improving others simply don’t Josh is a totally different player to the you young lad we signed from airdrie while Allan has remained the same
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 29 May 15:15
Josh is Mr Consistent. Definitely a player in there. I Hope he goes on to great things (as long as we get decent money for him that is 😂).
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 29 May 16:22
Let`s hope the courier have it correct and not the paper down south
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 29 May 16:33
Good to get a wee bidding war on the go.
It could be a nice earner for the club the now and in future, hopefully use the money to strengthen the squad and take us to the next level.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 29 May 16:34
Hopefully we get lucky and who ever signs him agrees to loan him back to us for this season what better way to say goodbye to the fans than by helping us win the league
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 29 May 17:06
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Wed 29 May 16:34
Hopefully we get lucky and who ever signs him agrees to loan him back to us for this season what better way to say goodbye to the fans than by helping us win the league
Not going to happen at 24 yrs old
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 17:20
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Wed 29 May 15:02
Quote:
weemike, Wed 29 May 13:45
It`s funny how Edwards at 24 has potential but Allan at 24 is at his peak.
How is it funny? some players have it in them to keep improving others simply don’t Josh is a totally different player to the you young lad we signed from airdrie while Allan has remained the same
Nonsense, Allan has improved and did not look out of place this season.
In fact, the squad was weaker without him In it,
But to answer your question, it`s funny because when it comes to 24 years of age alot of posters have written off alot of players with regards to development.
Players are always developing and even evolving into their 30`s
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 29 May 17:30
If we’re going for promotion next season we need players better and more experienced than Paul Allan.
Thats the harsh truth of the matter.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 29 May 18:24
Quote:
Berry, Wed 29 May 17:30
If we’re going for promotion next season we need players better and more experienced than Paul Allan.
Thats the harsh truth of the matter.
Agreed
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 18:48
Quote:
Berry, Wed 29 May 17:30
If we’re going for promotion next season we need players better and more experienced than Paul Allan.
Thats the harsh truth of the matter.
The same could be said about most of the squad!
When Allan featured this season, the squad had a better return of points per game than when he never featured.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Wed 29 May 18:52
Someone has to leave though for the squad to improve? And the points difference thing isn`t a big enough difference or sample size to prove anything.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 29 May 19:02
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Wed 29 May 18:52
Someone has to leave though for the squad to improve? And the points difference thing isn`t a big enough difference or sample size to prove anything.
I agree, but it does prove that this season, he more than held his own in this division. With extra scope for improvement in future. I suspect that Tod will feature more next season, and the management believes he has more potential.
I think they will find it hard to get a better player than Allan for his position on the market for the cost of his demands, etc.
I`m just hoping there has already been a couple of deals done (MFW,) and the board have said you can have A but you gotta let B,C and D go.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 29 May 19:30
I’m not deliberately picking on Allan, we finished 6th, seven points off the promotion playoffs and only three away from the relegation ones.
Thats not really good enough for us, regardless of injuries. We need to be doing a lot better and have a stronger squad so letting go of Allan was the correct decision as there will be better options.
I have a similar opinion on Tod seeing you mention him, he has bags of potential but again if we’re going for promotion are we going to do it with Tod in the first team regularly, the answer will be no.
It really depends on how we want to tackle next season, if we want to use it to bring on the younger ones (Tod, Sutherland etc) then be prepared for a bumpy ride.
We also need to build a team that can compete in the Premier League, we’ve noticed just during the playoff there the gap in levels. Players like KRH, Otoo, Todd, Hamilton have shown potential that with more experience and game time could reach that level.
I just can’t see it in Allan, nor McCann although he is contracted.
Not just the young ones either, I’d ideally want Chalmers and O’Halleron off our books, I still struggle with Mehmet.
Think we need a fair bit of a rebuild to be honest but not going to happen all in one season.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 29 May 19:35
Allan is a good player, has time to improve and I`ve not seen anyone saying he`s at his limit. The management team obviously believe the team needs strengthening in other areas or that they can recruit better to help the team right now.
Allans current standing though is nowhere near Edwards.
One has a host of English clubs chasing him, was voted by his peers as the best player in his position in the whole league, played every league game for us, and during a shorter spell at the club has more than twice as many appearances. The other is out of contract.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 30 May 07:31
Bristol Rovers have joined the chase. Hopefully, the price will go up.
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Thu 30 May 10:09
Quote:
EastEndTales, Thu 30 May 08:22
We need an Arab side now and we`ll be minted.
Dundee Utd?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 30 May 10:54
⋀⋀⋀ 😊😂🤣
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Thu 30 May 11:10
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 30 May 07:31
Bristol Rovers have joined the chase. Hopefully, the price will go up.
Won’t help. There is a release clause
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 30 May 12:07
No one actually knows (other than the clubs, agent & player) if the release clause is actually still active.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 30 May 12:24
Quote:
sadindiefreak, Thu 30 May 10:09
Quote:
EastEndTales, Thu 30 May 08:22
We need an Arab side now and we`ll be minted.
Dundee Utd?
🤔🤔😁😁😅
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 30 May 12:58
All this talk of a release clause puzzles me. If there was one wouldn`t the deal have been done by now? I thought a release clause was for the benefit of the player because it guaranteed him a move if a potential buyer was prepared to pay the amount specified in the clause. Isn`t that how McAllister got his move from Brighton to Liverpool?
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Thu 30 May 14:57
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 30 May 12:58
All this talk of a release clause puzzles me. If there was one wouldn`t the deal have been done by now? I thought a release clause was for the benefit of the player because it guaranteed him a move if a potential buyer was prepared to pay the amount specified in the clause. Isn`t that how McAllister got his move from Brighton to Liverpool?
No, clubs meet the clause but DAFC can negotiate better up front terms, sell on etc. equally the player will take time no doubt if he’s generating interest.
Seemingly the sell on is in place and £90k is the max we’ll get but perhaps a generous sell on clause. If the player wasn’t going to sign a new contract then there had to be something in there so not unsurprising
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 30 May 15:01
Where is all this information coming from?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 30 May 15:52
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 30 May 15:01
Where is all this information coming from?
Unknown sources that aren’t in the know. The only people that know the real price are the board, the player and his agent. We would only know if price was released but most likely will be “undisclosed”
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 30 May 16:27
Being able to add further clauses after the release fee has been reached sounds like a pretty poor contract. So the club would then say ok we will take 90k but we want 100% of all future fees - this seems improbable and really means it is not a £90k release clause at all. It almost sounds as though folk are just making it up like I just did 🤔
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 30 May 16:45
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 30 May 15:01
Where is all this information coming from?
I ken a boy, that kens a boy that kens a boy!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 30 May 18:05
The release clause time period passed.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 30 May 18:15
The English transfer window only opens on the 14th June so he can`t officially be registered with anyone until then.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 30 May 19:06
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 30 May 18:15
The English transfer window only opens on the 14th June so he can`t officially be registered with anyone until then.
Even better if there’s a bidding war going on.
Of course Josh might have his heart set on one of the clubs interested in him so something might be settled soon if said club are not willing to up their bid.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 5 Jun 17:14
2 bids accepted for him according to the courier.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:10
Yes, I noticed the headline in the Courier but couldn`t read the article. But that`s great, accepted two offers. Quick, get the money from both teams and then get Josh to choose. Every one`s a winner, no? Don`t understand the acceptance of both offers. Only one can technically be accepted.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:19
Paralex, multiple offers can be accepted in principle by the club if they meet their valuation of the player. However, it will then depend on who Edwards wants to sign for...after which the transfer can be finalised.
Post Edited (Wed 05 Jun 22:19)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:38
Yes, I guessed that Neil. Considering our need for cash, I was just half hoping we could double our money by getting them both to pay. But I also guess we`re not a registered charity.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:39
Why would they both pay when only one can actually sign him?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 5 Jun 23:09
Quote:
jake89, Wed 5 Jun 22:39
Why would they both pay when only one can actually sign him?
Seriously!?
I assumed he was joking.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 5 Jun 23:24
Steady chaps, I was `avin a laff. It is allowed you know.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Thu 6 Jun 02:53
No , no , no, no, NO ....
Having a laugh is strictly forbidden .
Consider yourself warned 🤪
Admin
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 6 Jun 06:27
Quote:
widtink, Thu 6 Jun 02:53
No , no , no, no, NO ....
Having a laugh is strictly forbidden .
Consider yourself warned 🤪
Never mind the warning, Tiddlywink! Establish your authority, Collina-style, and flash the yellow card straight away. That`ll show him....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 6 Jun 06:28
You never know these days. Some posters say some really stupid things! 🤣
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jun 06:29)
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 08:48
Charlton and Bristol Rovers met the asking price, Josh will discuss personal terms with both before making a decision. No mention of what the asking price was.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 6 Jun 08:57
likely to be next week as Josh is on holiday
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 09:02
RMGpar wrote:
> likely to be next week as Josh is on holiday
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must be between 5 and 7 X his current money
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 6 Jun 09:10
Thanks fdca for the Courier article. So we signed Josh from Airdrie? And he`s been with us 5 years. The two teams vying for his signature seem to be very close rivals in the English third tier. I would think Bristol might be a more pleasing location but I don`t suppose his main aim is to be near the seaside.
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Thu 6 Jun 10:42
From The Gas Chat forum of Bristol Rovers.
If we get the lad- great. But I`m dubious of the pedigree of Scottish Champ.
And
Feel the £1m click bait article has raised the prestige of this one. No need to panic about Bristol House prices here. Let`s just see what happens.
And
Going to Charlton according to Bristol live.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 6 Jun 18:42
Extract from Bristol Press:-
Bristol Rovers look set to miss out on the signing of Dunfermline Athletic left-back Josh Edwards to League One rivals Charlton Athletic, Bristol Live understands, after both clubs saw bids accepted by the Scottish Championship side, as first reported by the Courier.
However, the understanding is that Charlton have made the 24-year-old a better wage offer and the Scotsman has subsequently opted to move to South London as opposed to Bristol.
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:06
Charlton have also triggered a release fee in the contract of Dunfermline’s Edwards The South London Press understands that the cost of signing Edwards is set to be five figures.
shouldnt be putting that in contacts 5 figures is nothing
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:06
First we will prob know is when Charlton announce it
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:12
The release fee may come with a sell on clause...there`s a lot of stuff we don`t know.
Getting cash for a player with only a year left on his contract is good for the club. It`s a good move for Edwards too - Charlton are a big club with a decent pedigree, and Nathan Jones worked wonders with Luton at this level.
Good luck to Josh.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:13
So that 90k release clause that was rumoured and shot down aggressively by some on here was... Right?
Pathetically low amount
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:15
That’s when we will know as it’s with the buying club to announce it. I’d imagine afterwards you’ll get the standard response from both the player and dafc on the move.
Player - enjoyed my time at the club and hope they do well etc lots of memories etc etc
Club - happy for player, got a transfer at what we believe was fair offer, he will be a loss but we move on and wishing him
All the best
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:25
he could have walked out the door for nothing last summer, if it took some sort of release clause to sign a new deal back in January last year and get him to stay for even just one more season as it turns out then so be it.
"The release fee may come with a sell on clause...there`s a lot of stuff we don`t know"
correct.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:42
You have to be fair to the player as well.He could have gone in January, so even in that 6 month period he has made a significant financial sacrifice and stayed committed to helping us.
I think if we had been in a better spot in the league table at that time, he might have been away then? We probably decided to take a slight hit on the fee to help us ensure safety.If we had let him go at that time and got into even more of a relegation battle, there would have been a meltdown.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 10 Jun 14:10
My understanding was the clause related to a January signing so it`s disappointing if it applies now. Let`s hope there are built in sell on clauses and that he plays a blinder down there. Finally, best of luck to him!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 10 Jun 16:04
I was told that the 90k clause was still active this was after our last home game. It would be better for all parties that this gets resolved quickly so we can find a replacement before the end of the window.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Mon 10 Jun 16:28
Good luck to the lad. Been an excellent player for us and deserves a crack at bettering himself. Good age, still some potential, be interesting to see how he performs.
I know a couple of Charlton season ticket holders, wonder what they’ll make of him.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Mon 10 Jun 17:22
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 10 Jun 16:28
Good luck to the lad. Been an excellent player for us and deserves a crack at bettering himself. Good age, still some potential, be interesting to see how he performs.
I know a couple of Charlton season ticket holders, wonder what they’ll make of him.
Just across the river from Kevin Nisbet.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:03
Just across the river from Kevin Nisbet.
Same side of the river - South of the river only about 4 miles away.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:50
Quote:
Par, Mon 10 Jun 18:03
Just across the river from Kevin Nisbet.
Same side of the river - South of the river only about 4 miles away.
Stand corrected.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 10 Jun 20:46
I read some reports last week saying it would be a high 6 figure deal, which I did feel was unrealistic, but if it does turn out to be £90k, then that`s a bit of a blow.
Even if there are sell on clauses, that`s all dependant on him firstly managing to get in their team, up against Thierry Small and Tayo Edun, and then doing well enough to get a decent move.
I could see him fail to hold down a place and be up on loan at Dundee in the New Year, with no future sell on
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 10 Jun 20:47
£90k is nothing to these clubs, worth a punt all day long.
It’s a fine balance between offering long contracts and having players leave for a pittance. We don’t want to be stuck with players who are not good enough for years on end but can’t think our model works selling our best players for £90k.
If there’s a £90k clause I severely doubt we can stipulate anything at all about future selling on fee’s etc as buying club could tell us to get lost as we met the buyout fee.
Post Edited (Mon 10 Jun 20:58)
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 11 Jun 09:35
Quote:
Berkey, Mon 10 Jun 20:47
If there’s a £90k clause I severely doubt we can stipulate anything at all about future selling on fee’s etc as buying club could tell us to get lost as we met the buyout fee.
I would suggest that a release clause is simply that - a release - a minimum amount, not a guaranteed purchase price.
If one club offers 90k and another offers 500k, the club’s release clause would be met, but they would not be obliged to accept the lower one…
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 11 Jun 09:48
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Tue 11 Jun 09:35
Quote:
Berkey, Mon 10 Jun 20:47
If there’s a £90k clause I severely doubt we can stipulate anything at all about future selling on fee’s etc as buying club could tell us to get lost as we met the buyout fee.
I would suggest that a release clause is simply that - a release - a minimum amount, not a guaranteed purchase price.
If one club offers 90k and another offers 500k, the club’s release clause would be met, but they would not be obliged to accept the lower one…
Club are 100% obliged to accept the lower price - thats why its called a release clause. A penny lower than that they may refuse. Plus nobody would offer £500k if there was a £90k release clause…..
Post Edited (Tue 11 Jun 09:49)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 11 Jun 10:09
A £90K release clause means that`s what we will get.
If more than one club agrees to pay that, then it will come down to who offers the best deal TO the player?
We will only ever get the £90K transfer fee.
There may be a sell-on clause, but nobody has muted that, so probably not?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 11 Jun 10:20
I doubt there will be a sell on if there is release clause, most we will get is the standard FIFA Solidarity 5% from any future fees.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 11 Jun 10:23
The release cause will have its own stipulations written in to edwards contract. i.e., 90k upfront or 90k upfront +25% future. But once a club meets that, then the club is obligated to accept the deal. I hope for our sake, we have included a future sell on as part of the release. But what it shows to the rest of the squad and future signings is we are willing to let them advance their careers, and not price them out.
That being said 90k is cheap but edwards is going on to better things... the rest is up to him.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 11 Jun 12:12
Emm
A quick google says that the ‘release clause’ can often referred to as a MINIMUM release clause…
None of us here are party to the exact wording in his contract though, hopefully it is a ‘minimum’.
“A clause in a player’s contract which sets a minimum fee that a club must bid to be able to buy that player”
Which HOPEFULLY ties in with rumours of ‘six-figures’
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Tue 11 Jun 12:23
I suspect the journalist from the local paper who suggested the fee was 5 figures has probably used .net as his source.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 11 Jun 12:50
90k sounds about right to me given the circumstances.I wonder if a percentage of that will be going to Airdrie too?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 11 Jun 12:57
They will get the minimum 5%, as per the FIFA Solidarity training fee, but that 5% will be split between them and Killie. There was no mention of a sell on at time of the signing, only that Calum Smith would go on loan as part of the deal.
Post Edited (Tue 11 Jun 13:02)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Tue 11 Jun 13:04
I regularly go to buy things and ask if they will accept 5 or 6 times the minimum that I have to pay 👍🏼😂
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 11 Jun 13:17
Quote:
Athletico, Tue 11 Jun 12:57
They will get the minimum 5%, as per the FIFA Solidarity training fee. There was no mention of a sell on at time of the signing, only that Calum Smith would go on loan as part of the deal.
I had a look back at that, but rarely would a sell on fee be disclosed at that point and the fee we paid was described as ` a mutual compensation arrangement` which is a creative way of saying undisclosed 🙂 Guess we will never know as seems to be the way these days.
Good luck to Josh and hopefully we get a capable replacement in.Onwards and upwards for both🤞
Post Edited (Tue 11 Jun 13:18)
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 11 Jun 13:58
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Tue 11 Jun 12:12
Emm
A quick google says that the ‘release clause’ can often referred to as a MINIMUM release clause…
None of us here are party to the exact wording in his contract though, hopefully it is a ‘minimum’.
“A clause in a player’s contract which sets a minimum fee that a club must bid to be able to buy that player”
Which HOPEFULLY ties in with rumours of ‘six-figures’
You’re really missing the point here. If anyone is willing to pay that minimum fee, we’re obliged to accept. Yes, clubs can choose to pay more, but I highly doubt that any club will, because they have nothing to gain by spending more money than they need to.
Also, in the scenario previously mentioned, we would still have to accept the £90k bid, even if another club offered £500k. Any bid that hits that minimum has to be accepted.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 14:30
I suppose it depends how it`s approached. If I go to an auction and there`s a minimum reserve price then I can meet that, have my bus accepted and still lose the auction. Though ultimately I suppose it comes down to Edwards. We could have had an offer of £900k and another of 90k but he might decide the 90k suits him better. No skin off his nose.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 11 Jun 14:49
Quote:
P, Tue 11 Jun 13:04
I regularly go to buy things and ask if they will accept 5 or 6 times the minimum that I have to pay 👍🏼😂
You might if there was only one of what you wanted and a couple of other folk wanted it too.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 11 Jun 14:56
Clearly no-one is going to pay more than any release clause. Any club can speak to Edwards if they match it, so there is no benefit to going over it.
He`s going to go to the place that gives him the most money and /or opportunity to progress - it`s irrelevant to him how much that club is going to pay the Pars.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 11 Jun 15:50
I thought the release clause was the minimum that would need to be tabled .Should more than 1 team be interested and it goes to a bidding scenario then we can take the best offer .Unless if the minimum is reached by both clubs the player has the choice what`s better for him
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 11 Jun 16:44
Quote:
Rigger Al, Tue 11 Jun 15:50
I thought the release clause was the minimum that would need to be tabled .Should more than 1 team be interested and it goes to a bidding scenario then we can take the best offer .Unless if the minimum is reached by both clubs the player has the choice what`s better for him
A Minimal fee release clause of "£90K" means 10 teams can bid 90k,we can do nothing but accept and it`s down to Edwards. No team would benefit bidding above the release fee
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:32
They would benefit, because they may be the one he signs for, rather than others , it comes back to being a bidding war, those who want him most pay more, the unknown is what he wants he might want a club who have offered less
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:34
What I don`t understand is, if there is a 90k release clause, how did we reject a £150k bid in January?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:45
Maybe, given the injury situation, we didn`t want to lose another experienced defender with no obvious replacement in the squad and no guarantee we could replace him adequately from outside in that window.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:49
Quote:
jake89, Tue 11 Jun 18:34
What I don`t understand is, if there is a 90k release clause, how did we reject a £150k bid in January?
We didn’t
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:55
I would have thought the release fee would have been afigure agreed by the club in its evaluation of the player I.e. it could have been based on a % of his wages. Thecreasoning at the time appears to be based on our unwillingness to release him based on our injury situation. It may have been a pragmatic estimate given the cost to the club should we have faced relegation and other factors such as being able to bring in a replacement.
At the end of the day we will get what we get and move on. You have to be fair to the player, more so as our model will be to develop players so that they can progress to higher levels. Perhaps with bringing in young players with a view to developing them we can have a more robust financial model in place
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 18:59
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 11 Jun 18:49
Quote:
jake89, Tue 11 Jun 18:34
What I don`t understand is, if there is a 90k release clause, how did we reject a £150k bid in January?
We didn’t
Okay, it was apparently February. Barnsley came in with a "six figure offer".
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 11 Jun 19:20
Six figures could be £100,000 or £999,999.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 19:27
Both of which are more than £90k. The stories are pay walled but £150k was quoted.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 11 Jun 19:32
I`m not sure why people think that if there is a 90k minimum release clause, that Charlton are going to put in an offer of 90k and trigger the clause but another club will put in more that the 90k minimum. It just won`t happen. Another team might have a budget of 900k for a left back and they can then table the 90k minimum release clause and use that balance to give Josh a hefty signing on fee, and better wages than he might have got if his market value wasn`t wiped out by a paltry minimum release clause.
Probably a tough one to negotiate, I guess to get him to stay on they had to make some concession and this probably suited Josh and we get something and he helped us avoid relegation which would have been much more costly.
Mr Cook and the people in the other paid positions will need to start proving their worth soon, squeezing every penny out of transfers.
I`m not fussy over the lack of social media marketing, as I`m a bit past that excited kids stage of needing constant updates, but I am picking up that a lot of people want that, and other clubs are doing it. Maybe we need to get Barrowman in. He seems to know what he is doing
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 19:39
Assuming there is a £90k minimum then that is all they have to pay that and not a penny more. It would then be up to the player to decide. That`s why I find it odd that it was reported we turned down £150k. The only thing I can think is that the clause only applies to the final year of the contract?
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Tue 11 Jun 21:50
With the injuries at the time it was maybe decided that a small hit in transfer fee was worth it if he could help keep us up
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 11 Jun 21:55
Why not just play Fenton then? 150k in the bank but now it’s 90k/fenton gone and we’re looking for a decent LB🤷
How much cash will be put into the team?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 11 Jun 22:01
But why did Barnsley apparently offer £150k when they could have offered only £90k?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 11 Jun 22:16
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Alter Ego, Tue 11 Jun 21:55
Why not just play Fenton then? 150k in the bank but now it’s 90k/fenton gone and we’re looking for a decent LB🤷
How much cash will be put into the team?
The difference between 150k to 90k for keeping a consistent performer, not to mention a consistently fit performer, is nothing to be fair. I think without him, at a time when we had terrible injuries we might have slipped back into league 1.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 12 Jun 09:46
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red-star-par, Tue 11 Jun 22:16
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Alter Ego, Tue 11 Jun 21:55
Why not just play Fenton then? 150k in the bank but now it’s 90k/fenton gone and we’re looking for a decent LB🤷
How much cash will be put into the team?
The difference between 150k to 90k for keeping a consistent performer, not to mention a consistently fit performer, is nothing to be fair. I think without him, at a time when we had terrible injuries we might have slipped back into league 1.
Agree Red Star. We can all look back with comfortable hindsight and say many things but we must look forward.. Look at ICT. Keeping Josh is January was 100% the right thing to do. Good luck to the lad if and when he goes. Very honest Pro who wouldn’t hide behind others for his mistakes. Sign of a real professional to deal with it and get on with it when the place was falling apart in the winter months. He did a real turn for us.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 12 Jun 10:23
Given the state of our squad and our form at the time, taking £150k in Feb (if that was indeed on the table, could have, quite feasibly, led to relegation.
That being the case, I reckon £60k was a pretty good price to pay to stay up.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 12 Jun 10:37
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Bandy, Wed 12 Jun 10:23
Given the state of our squad and our form at the time, taking £150k in Feb (if that was indeed on the table, could have, quite feasibly, led to relegation.
That being the case, I reckon £60k was a pretty good price to pay to stay up.
But why did Barnsley offer £150k when they could have offered £90k and how did the club turn it down when there was a release clause? Presumably it was Edwards who turned it down rather than the club?
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 12 Jun 11:15
Short answer - I don`t know. I`m not running the club.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 12 Jun 11:34
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jake89, Wed 12 Jun 10:37
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Bandy, Wed 12 Jun 10:23
Given the state of our squad and our form at the time, taking £150k in Feb (if that was indeed on the table, could have, quite feasibly, led to relegation.
That being the case, I reckon £60k was a pretty good price to pay to stay up.
But why did Barnsley offer £150k when they could have offered £90k and how did the club turn it down when there was a release clause? Presumably it was Edwards who turned it down rather than the club?
The guess would be the release clause only became active this summer rather than January so the club could protect itself from losing Edwards on deadline day during an important part of the season. Which was absolutely the correct decision. Without Edwards there`s every chance the club could`ve been in the relegation playoff place
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 12 Jun 11:35
There was no release clause active in January, it only became active at the end of the season.
Why would Barnsley offer 150k (I`ve yet to see this figure quoted anywhere btw) in January when they could get him in the summer for 90k? They were probably desperate for a player in January.
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