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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Thu 8 May 15:56
Who decided which players were going/staying ?
I`d like to think that Lennon has had input into it .
I`d also like to hear if he`s to be our manager next season .
I might be gibbering as I`m in the pub š¤.
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 8 May 16:13
I would have thought at NL is still engaged by the club he would have some input.hopefully he will stay on and be able to bring players in who can form a team to go for the championship title, but also be able to build on that and compete at premiership level. I have no doubt that would be NL`s objective and hence influence his decision to stay on as manager.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 8 May 17:30
Id think Lennon is signed and the club will be holding out until they announce the season tickets.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Thu 08 May 17:30)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 8 May 18:48
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 8 May 17:30
Id think Lennon is signed and the club will be holding out until they announce the season tickets.
Agreed. Done and dusted before the clearout was actioned.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 8 May 19:13
Iāve heard itās still ongoing negotiations between the club and NL.
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 8 May 20:53
Think hes waiting to see what happens the league above ,He said last week it would be the weekend till he would have a decision ,now were 4 days past the weekend ,I think hes holding out ,If thats the case strange he has input who stays and who goes
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 8 May 21:10
Daily Record:
18:41Scott Burns
Dunfermline confident of keeping Lennon as boss
Dunfermline Athletic are confident of keeping Neil Lennon at East End Park.
The former Celtic boss was brought in by the Fifers in March to keep them in the Championship.
Lennon not only did that but also led the Pars to seventh in the league.
His short-term contract was until the end of the season but now owner James Bord wants to make it a permanent arrangement.
Bord and his board are also willing to back Lennon financially on and off the park to put together a squad that can get Dunfermline back to the Premiership.
Lennon is ready to hold talks with Bord to learn of his plans.
He was backed to bring in his former Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama and the club are in talks to try and extend that agreement.
Dunfermline remain in talks with Chris Hamilton, Josh Cooper, Tashan Oakley-Boothe and Jeremian Chilokoa Mullen.
Bord and his backers bought Dunfermline earlier this year and are determined to turn them into a major force in Scottish football again
They believe the former Hibs and Bolton boss can help them achieve that.
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Topic Originator: Boomer
Date: Thu 8 May 21:54
Lennon agreed a contract weeks ago providing we stayed up. I can only assume that the timing to confirm this relates to season ticket sales announcement.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 8 May 21:57
Itās not rocket science. Wanyama wouldnāt be in talks if Lennon was offski.
Heāll be our boss next season without doubt.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 8 May 22:34
Looking for white smoke coming out of East End Park
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Fri 9 May 00:29
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 8 May 21:57
Itās not rocket science. Wanyama wouldnāt be in talks if Lennon was offski.
Heāll be our boss next season without doubt.
There`s an entirely plausible scenario where Wanyama is willing to discuss terms if Lennon accepts. No guarantee that`s happened yet.
Sorry if that`s not "rocket science".
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 9 May 07:57
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 8 May 21:57
Itās not rocket science. Wanyama wouldnāt be in talks if Lennon was offski.
Heāll be our boss next season without doubt.
I suspect clubs are not lining up in competition to sign him based on the most recent performances available to prospective interested parties
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 9 May 12:53
Yes, Lennon will be here but I am not sure about Wanyama It was notable that he played the whole game against Morton. Now, if he gets a good pre-season under his beltā¦.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 9 May 14:48
Would i be right in assuming that NL will have played no part in deciding which players will be leaving .
Would seem implausible, considering he`s not decided about his own future yet .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Garvockpar14
Date: Fri 9 May 14:59
I think it is much more likely he would have had some involvement in that process.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 9 May 15:00
Surely deciding on players` contracts is a football matter which requires input from the manager unless you just decide to let go everyone who is out of contract. The fact that we are `in dialogue` with some suggests he has been involved, otherwise who would have made these decisions?
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Fri 9 May 15:18
Lennon must have had a big day in the decisions regarding the out of contract players, especially given all the noises about him staying on. I`d have hoped John McLaughlin also had some input, given Lennon isn`t confirmed as manager and will have had a whole season view of the players. Maybe there was some data analysis behind it as well :)
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Fri 9 May 15:35
I think the data analytics is the only stumbling block regarding Lennon signing on long term. He`ll want his say on who comes in and won`t want to leave it all to a talking dishwasher.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 9 May 16:03
I just find it a bit odd that someone who may not even be here himself would be deciding on other people`s jobs .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Fri 9 May 16:20
"I think the data analytics is the only stumbling block regarding Lennon signing on long term. He`ll want his say on who comes in and won`t want to leave it all to a talking dishwasher."
Lennon has literally said that he is here because of the owner, that he likes the way he thinks about football and thinks he can learn something.
Analytics have played a huge part in the success of Brighton, Brentford and Liverpool in recent years. What makes you think Lennon is such a dinosaur that he wouldn`t want to use the resources available - especially given his comments about his discussions with Bord?
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Equal rights and justice in this time
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 10 May 18:31
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Fri 9 May 16:20
"I think the data analytics is the only stumbling block regarding Lennon signing on long term. He`ll want his say on who comes in and won`t want to leave it all to a talking dishwasher."
Lennon has literally said that he is here because of the owner, that he likes the way he thinks about football and thinks he can learn something.
Analytics have played a huge part in the success of Brighton, Brentford and Liverpool in recent years. What makes you think Lennon is such a dinosaur that he wouldn`t want to use the resources available - especially given his comments about his discussions with Bord?
There was a cracking interview on the High Performance pod with that fella who did the data stuff for Liverpoolās transfers. Well worth a listen if youāve not heard it already.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 10 May 19:34
Quote:
Parsweep, Fri 9 May 14:48
Would i be right in assuming that NL will have played no part in deciding which players will be leaving .
Would seem implausible, considering he`s not decided about his own future yet .
I think Lennon will certainly have had a say as I`m convinced a contract has been agreed with him. When will it be officially announced? My guess is when the STs go on sale.... š
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Sat 10 May 21:21
Will be announced next week?
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 11 May 09:23
Would`ve thought terms would`ve been agreed prior to the end of the season.
Hopefully news next week as we have a big re-build to get on with.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 11 May 14:30
Itās either all been agreed and signed and they are keeping it quiet to announce at a certain time.
Or perhaps thereās a sticking point. Weāll have offered Lennon big money for the short spell until the end of the season that we perhaps canāt commit to for a full season or 2? Maybe thereās a big promotion bonus but Lenny wants to see what his budget is?
Could be anything, maybe Lennon keen to continue with his media commitments and punditry and it causing issues? Of those who have left Iād imagine any manager would let them go to get their own players in.
I just hope if thereās a sticking point we have a plan b if anything drags on.
Post Edited (Sun 11 May 14:32)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 11 May 18:10
I hope im wrong ,but I think if NL was staying it would already be announced,cant afford to drag on as a lot of re building to be done
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sun 11 May 18:20
Contract of this nature will take time and imagine there has been a bit of back and forth. Expect it to all be sorted with the next 7 days.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sun 11 May 18:41
Thereās no real urgency. He will be in contract till the end of this month ( after all we might have been in the relation playoff place). While here, he would be deciding players futures as the current manager. David Cook has no knowledge to shape a squad or decide what players for playing formations.
I fully expect 2 or 3 currently in negotiation eg cooper , Hamilton to be announced as signed at the same time as Lenny is announced this month. End of the month Wanyamma alongside a biggish name signing tying in the early bird and season ticket options.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 11 May 18:49
Rovers selling season tickets for 25/26 already.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 11 May 19:13
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 11 May 18:49
Rovers selling season tickets for 25/26 already.
Surprised they`re so early. With all the money they`ve made from a 528% increase in pie sales they should be all set.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sun 11 May 19:30
Quote:
jake89, Sun 11 May 19:13
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 11 May 18:49
Rovers selling season tickets for 25/26 already.
Surprised they`re so early. With all the money they`ve made from a 528% increase in pie sales they should be all set.
The Rovers board are claiming they had the 8th lowest budget in the league. Imagine how bad it would be without all the pie sales.
Post Edited (Sun 11 May 19:31)
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 11 May 20:21
Are their pies (steak related, not the eyeballs, scrotum and offal crap) any good?
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Sun 11 May 20:22
Edinburgh City were selling season tickets at League 2 prices last week, even before their League 1 play-off games against East Fife!
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sun 11 May 20:23
my big worry is uf mccinnes goes to hearts killie might look at lennon
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 11 May 20:37
It needs to be cemented reasonably soon so we can start talking to potential signings ahead of the incoming window opening. End of next week at the latest,if not then we face a mad dash scramble to get a new manager in which will put us behind schedule regarding pre-season and signings.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 12 May 06:44
Quote:
bigdonnie, Sun 11 May 20:23
my big worry is uf mccinnes goes to hearts killie might look at lennon
I think thats what NL is holding out for
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 12 May 07:15
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 12 May 06:44
Quote:
bigdonnie, Sun 11 May 20:23
my big worry is uf mccinnes goes to hearts killie might look at lennon
I think thats what NL is holding out for
Killie are not exactly awash with cash. What makes you think they can offer Lennon a bigger salary and budget than the Pars can?
If Lennon hasn`t already agreed a contract with us, he can stall in the hope the Killie job does come up and that he would be the club`s first choice, not knowing how big a budget and salary they can offer. Assuming he got the job, his target would be to try and squeeze into the top 6.
If he stays at the Pars, he`ll get a good salary and a decent budget and his task will be promotion to the Premiership and hero status among Pars fans. An absolute no brainer..... š
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 12 May 08:34
Back in November time hearts were dead and buried and were a mess, shipping goals, no confidence, players looking like they`d rather be anywhere else. Then Neil Critchley came in and nearly took them to the Scottish Cup final that was some turnaround in a short space of time.
Critchley walked into a disaster zone and somehow steadied the ship. The defence stopped leaking, the midfield started ticking, and he got some of the deadwood playing like they`d remembered they were professional football players. Not only did they claw their way out of the relegation zone, we started actually playing decent football.
missing out on the Scottish cup final and missing out on top 6 was the catalyst for him getting sacked. But to come that close after where they were was remarkable.
Hearts fans are crazy Neilson had them a hard team to beat they sacked him now chritchley has gone after a great turnaround.Would McInnes want to go to Hearts ? If I was him in a relatively secure job I would stay well clear. Is Hearts a massive step up at the moment? Probably not...
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 12 May 10:26
"Not only did they claw their way out of the relegation zone, we started actually playing decent football."
Ahem! "We," Cammy? Have you inadvertently let a Jambo out of the bag? š¤ š
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 12 May 11:01
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 12 May 10:26
"Not only did they claw their way out of the relegation zone, we started actually playing decent football."
Ahem! "We," Cammy? Have you inadvertently let a Jambo out of the bag? š¤ š
I was actually speaking to a Jambo at the time of typing it asking what he thought of it. Hearts have the potential to be up there but it seems they aren`t really sure of the direction they want to go to get there. Especially when you see what`s happening in Leith.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 12 May 12:34
Mad hearts removed critchley, if your Mcinnes though you jump at that job if itās a 2-3 year deal, chances are youāll be paid off within a year and thatās much more money than youād get at killie.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 12 May 12:53
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sun 11 May 18:10
I hope im wrong ,but I think if NL was staying it would already be announced,cant afford to drag on as a lot of re building to be done
My thought process is the exact opposite. If we were going to be looking for a new manager, that would be made public by now so that managers and agents were sending in CVs/applying for the job.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Mon 12 May 13:01
I accidentally stumbled upon the GlasgowWorld website and they specified that Neil Lennon himself was in contract talks with Victor Wanyama. All the signs that NL is staying seem to be quite positive, so here`s hoping this week will bring some good news.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 12 May 13:03
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sun 11 May 18:10
I hope im wrong ,but I think if NL was staying it would already be announced,cant afford to drag on as a lot of re building to be done
Surely if he signed the contract he will be looking at potential signings now? Why would he wait for it to be announced to start planning for next season?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 12 May 13:05
It will be done and dusted by end of this week.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 12 May 17:08
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 12 May 06:44
Quote:
bigdonnie, Sun 11 May 20:23
my big worry is uf mccinnes goes to hearts killie might look at lennon
I think thats what NL is holding out for
I donāt think itās fair to say thatā¦..we donāt even know if he is holding out for anything š”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 12 May 17:46
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
He was at Tynecastie last week and agreed a deal.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 12 May 17:56
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Mon 12 May 17:08
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 12 May 06:44
Quote:
bigdonnie, Sun 11 May 20:23
my big worry is uf mccinnes goes to hearts killie might look at lennon
I think thats what NL is holding out for
I donāt think itās fair to say thatā¦..we donāt even know if he is holding out for anything š”
Relax,its an opinion
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 12 May 18:19
"Killie are not exactly awash with cash. What makes you think they can offer Lennon a bigger salary and budget than the Pars can?"
C`mon GG, you`re better than that. Not only is the Kilmarnock owner very wealthy, they have managed to get in quite a number of big name managerial appointments in recent years - Clarke, Wright and McInnes to name three - and they`ll be paying a very competitive salary. They`ve had one season out of the top flight in recent memory, plenty of European football and big gates v the Old Firm. Even if that wasn`t true, apart from that blip when they came down, they are an established Premiership club. I don`t think they will be after Lennon but to suggest we`re a better option presently is looking at things with Pars glasses on.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 12 May 18:32
Quote:
Kdy Par, Sun 11 May 19:30
Quote:
jake89, Sun 11 May 19:13
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 11 May 18:49
Rovers selling season tickets for 25/26 already.
Surprised they`re so early. With all the money they`ve made from a 528% increase in pie sales they should be all set.
The Rovers board are claiming they had the 8th lowest budget in the league. Imagine how bad it would be without all the pie sales.
Aye but sales of ching and other recreational drugs have been down in Kirkcaldy this past year so that might have something to do with it
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Mon 12 May 18:46
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Mon 12 May 18:32
Quote:
Kdy Par, Sun 11 May 19:30
Quote:
jake89, Sun 11 May 19:13
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 11 May 18:49
Rovers selling season tickets for 25/26 already.
Surprised they`re so early. With all the money they`ve made from a 528% increase in pie sales they should be all set.
The Rovers board are claiming they had the 8th lowest budget in the league. Imagine how bad it would be without all the pie sales.
Aye but sales of ching and other recreational drugs have been down in Kirkcaldy this past year so that might have something to do with it
Naughty naughty š
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 12 May 18:48
Quote:
kelty_par, Mon 12 May 18:19
"Killie are not exactly awash with cash. What makes you think they can offer Lennon a bigger salary and budget than the Pars can?"
C`mon GG, you`re better than that. Not only is the Kilmarnock owner very wealthy, they have managed to get in quite a number of big name managerial appointments in recent years - Clarke, Wright and McInnes to name three - and they`ll be paying a very competitive salary. They`ve had one season out of the top flight in recent memory, plenty of European football and big gates v the Old Firm. Even if that wasn`t true, apart from that blip when they came down, they are an established Premiership club. I don`t think they will be after Lennon but to suggest we`re a better option presently is looking at things with Pars glasses on.
I`m of the opinion that Mr Bord has deep pockets and that, unlike our previous owners, he appears to be ready to spend some significant cash on his new club. I must admit that it makes me feel a little bit nervous after what happened in 2013. š±
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Mon 12 May 18:48)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 12 May 19:00
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 May 17:46
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
He was at Tynecastie last week and agreed a deal.
If you watch his post match interview from Saturday then youād believe otherwise. Completely refutes it.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 12 May 19:42
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 12 May 19:00
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 May 17:46
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
He was at Tynecastie last week and agreed a deal.
If you watch his post match interview from Saturday then youād believe otherwise. Completely refutes it.
Definately true then.
We are not as big a lure as Kilmarnock at present, but if you buy into the Bords plans and ambition, maybe we are a better, more exciting prospect.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 12 May 20:21
Newspaper at weekend saying that another American gambler was putting money into Tynecastle.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 12 May 20:38
I would have thought there would have been some sort of preliminary agreement when NL came in. I think one aspect of that would have been keeping us in the championship. The benefit of the short-term deal as it appears to me was the ability of either party to walk away. The current negotiation, as I would see it, would be about the next steps in terms of NL`s role in the club going forward and what he believes needs to happen and how much needs to be invested. I believe the intent is for the club to develop players in addition to probably strengthening the squad, hence the players that have departed to date. Personally I think Subject to the conditions being agreed NL will be the manager next year. I think as a club we have great potential and what better way to demonstrate your managerial abilities and software analytics. Together there is potential there to develop a club that can punch above its weight.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Mon 12 May 20:39
`Newspaper at weekend saying that another American gambler was putting money into Tynecastle.``
It`s Tony Bloom the Brighton owner. Done wonders at Brighton and uses similar technology as our owners. Believe he`s used to play Bord in the World poker series.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 12 May 21:50
Bit concerned how long this is taking. We really need to hit the ground running this close season, more than ever.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 12 May 21:56
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 12 May 21:50
Bit concerned how long this is taking. We really need to hit the ground running this close season, more than ever.
Apparently Neil Lennon is on holiday. Back soon. Think weāll see an announcement later in the week with a couple of new signings shortly after.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 12 May 22:01
Quote:
Kdy Par, Mon 12 May 21:56
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 12 May 21:50
Bit concerned how long this is taking. We really need to hit the ground running this close season, more than ever.
Apparently Neil Lennon is on holiday. Back soon. Think weāll see an announcement later in the week with a couple of new signings shortly after.
Lanza John wouldn`t go on holiday when his club needed him š
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 12 May 22:31
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 May 22:01
Quote:
Kdy Par, Mon 12 May 21:56
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 12 May 21:50
Bit concerned how long this is taking. We really need to hit the ground running this close season, more than ever.
Apparently Neil Lennon is on holiday. Back soon. Think weāll see an announcement later in the week with a couple of new signings shortly after.
Lanza John wouldn`t go on holiday when his club needed him š
True š
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Mon 12 May 23:06
ššš
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 12 May 23:57
The Sun are saying Steven Naismith may be in the frame for the Killie job - being an ex-player of course - if Derek McInnes joins Hearts.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 13 May 03:01
Want this over the line now. Need to get a move on for players he wants before we miss out like last year.
Been told there is a concrete offer on the table for Moult but unsure if he will make the move as personal circumstances may see him move back down south.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 13 May 09:46
The season isn`t even finished yet, and the window is closed. We have plenty time.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 13 May 09:59
The Courier is saying discussions with those with whom the club is `in dialogue` have been temporarily suspended as players are taking their close season break. That may apply to NL too of course.
Meanwhile local lad and Pars` fan, Lucas Fyfe, has been signed on a two-year apprenticeship.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 13 May 12:00
He needs to get his LinkedIn page updated.š¤£ `I am currently looking for new challenges ` and no sign of us on there.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 13 May 16:36
Derek McInnes`s latest comments suggest he`s on his way to Hearts although he`ll see out this season with Killie. Their fans don`t seem that keen on the prospect of Naismith being their next manager and NL is being mentioned.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 13 May 17:15
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 13 May 16:36
Derek McInnes`s latest comments suggest he`s on his way to Hearts although he`ll see out this season with Killie. Their fans don`t seem that keen on the prospect of Naismith being their next manager and NL is being mentioned.
I could see McInnes getting the Trent Alexander Arnold treatment if he stays for the last 2 games? Wouldn`t be surprised if Chris Burke took them for the rest of the season?
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 13 May 17:19
Quote:
parathletic, Tue 13 May 17:15
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wee eck, Tue 13 May 16:36
Derek McInnes`s latest comments suggest he`s on his way to Hearts although he`ll see out this season with Killie. Their fans don`t seem that keen on the prospect of Naismith being their next manager and NL is being mentioned.
I could see McInnes getting the Trent Alexander Arnold treatment if he stays for the last 2 games? Wouldn`t be surprised if Chris Burke took them for the rest of the season?
Yeah, I wondered if Killie would do āa Tidserā on him and send him off on gardening leave for the final 2 games.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 13 May 17:59
Killie`s last game is on Sunday...at home to Hearts!
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Tue 13 May 18:01
No chance they will let him take that game. Thereās a bit of money at stake with league positioning
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 13 May 18:36
Be surprised if the deal is struck by Sunday for McInnes, and if it is would be shocked if itās unveiled before then. Dialogue only started today between club and him. Both their seasons are effectively done (bar some prize money), so doubt either set of fans will care that much.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Tue 13 May 18:39
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 13 May 18:36
Be surprised if the deal is struck by Sunday for McInnes, and if it is would be shocked if itās unveiled before then. Dialogue only started today between club and him. Both their seasons are effectively done (bar some prize money), so doubt either set of fans will care that much.
He agreed a deal today and all done. Part of it is heās staying for final 2 games at Kilmarnock
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 13 May 19:57
Has it? Thought that was all just paper chat from news outlets so far. Only news articles say that Hearts and Killie have agreed a deal, nothing confirming any deal has been signed.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 13 May 20:44
While moult is a good player heās 33 tomorrow so hopefully heās still got the legs and itās perhaps just a 1 year deal.
Only played in 18 games last season too due to various injuries. Kane playing in more games than that.
Post Edited (Tue 13 May 20:49)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 13 May 22:02
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 12 May 19:00
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 May 17:46
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jake89, Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
He was at Tynecastie last week and agreed a deal.
If you watch his post match interview from Saturday then youād believe otherwise. Completely refutes it.
As I said, deal was agreed last week. Only thing left was compensation.
He wouldnāt have wanted to admit heād agreed to go in case the clubs could not reach an agreement
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 13 May 22:02)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 13 May 22:18
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 13 May 22:02
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Dave_1885, Mon 12 May 19:00
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 12 May 17:46
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jake89, Mon 12 May 12:52
McInness has been approached but there are other names in the frame.
He was at Tynecastie last week and agreed a deal.
If you watch his post match interview from Saturday then youād believe otherwise. Completely refutes it.
As I said, deal was agreed last week. Only thing left was compensation.
He wouldnāt have wanted to admit heād agreed to go in case the clubs could not reach an agreement
Honestly think heās a fantastic appointment for Hearts, and a really good fit. Heāll get them back to competing for 3rd spot again Iām sure
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 May 09:23
The focus has now switched to who will take over at Killie with Steven Naismith still favourite apparently and Chris Burke in his team. I wish we would get our position sorted and end any speculation about NL.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Wed 14 May 09:28
Just out of curiosity , does anyone have any idea when ST`s might go on sale ?
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 14 May 09:37
Lennons deal may already be signed and will be announced once heās back from holiday.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 14 May 10:36
Jesus wept panic merchants all over the place
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 14 May 11:34
I am sure the announcement will come in the fullness of time. It`s one thing making an announcement. It`s another to be working in the background to get the right structure and systems in place. I would suspect that once everything has been lined up, an announcement will be made. It`s good that NL and his team have enjoyed it at EEP. that`s the prerequisite for any job that you want to excel at. As a club as a whole It`s been a difficult season, but like everything, there are things to learn from that. It`s a different type of challenge, but sometimes you learn things about yourself as a result. Hopefully, for the younger players, they will have done that and also those other players who will be staying on. On VW, I think he will have something to offer both on and off the park. He`s been there done it and bought the T shirt. Personally, I never underestimate the value of experience.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 14 May 12:23
I very much doubt NL will be going to killieā¦ but your hardly a panic merchant to note the fact that, publicly we havenāt announced NL as our manager for next year, a team a league above is now seeking a manager and that in the ether, NLās name is now being mentioned in the same sentence?
Iām sure itās just a timing thing, but can understand people getting a little anxious given the backdrop
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Wed 14 May 12:27
Just to add, an early announcement would also give fans a bit of much needed excitement/optimism given the $hitĀ£ season we`ve just had.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 14 May 12:43
Indiapar on VW it purely depends on what your paying him. If itās like Ā£1k a week itās absolutely worth it for what he can bring to the team on and off the park. If itās Ā£3k it expensive and at this point unjustified until he shows he can get his fitness levels up to be competitive in this league.
I guess it depends on the wage budget, I think weāll be paying good money but I didnāt expect weāll be paying very big amounts for this league and it needs to be sensible spending, canāt see bord wanting lose millions every year.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 14 May 12:48
Think Neil Lennon signing on is inevitable, all his previous interviews indicate that he was going to stay around next season.
I wouldnāt have said it before Bord but think Dunfermline are a more exciting proposition than any other clubs available in Scottish football at the moment, not to say he was ever to be considered but the Falkirk gig (had MGlynn gone) would never work out well, you can only do so much with a team like Kilmarnock, Steve Clarke took them as far as I think they can go.
Dunfermline are in a good spot, he has the opportunity to build his own team with (if itās to be believed) a nice war chest of funds so would be seeing us challenging for the title, and I donāt think the ambition would stop there if we got up.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Wed 14 May 12:59
I lived in Ayrshire for four years and always had the impression that anything Celtic related didn`t go down too well, so I would very much doubt the prospect of NL signing for Killie.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 14 May 13:14
Steve Clarke is a "Celtic man", CitizenPar. He did ok.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 14 May 13:20
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Raymie the Legend, Wed 14 May 13:14
Steve Clarke is a "Celtic man", CitizenPar. He did ok.
Tommy Burns was another that sprung to mind?
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Wed 14 May 13:43
When I lived in Ayrshire, Tommy McLean played for Killie so it wasn`t exactly yesterday. Perhaps it was just a case of everyone I knew or met was either a Killie or Rangers fan.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 14 May 13:57
Quote:
Berry, Wed 14 May 12:48
Think Neil Lennon signing on is inevitable, all his previous interviews indicate that he was going to stay around next season.
I wouldnāt have said it before Bord but think Dunfermline are a more exciting proposition than any other clubs available in Scottish football at the moment, not to say he was ever to be considered but the Falkirk gig (had MGlynn gone) would never work out well, you can only do so much with a team like Kilmarnock, Steve Clarke took them as far as I think they can go.
Dunfermline are in a good spot, he has the opportunity to build his own team with (if itās to be believed) a nice war chest of funds so would be seeing us challenging for the title, and I donāt think the ambition would stop there if we got up.
Clarke took Killie to 3rd in the league, were challenging at the top until around February and his record against the former OF was W6, D6, L6.
If Lennon, or anyone, takes us as far as we can go and it matches that, I`d bite your hand off.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 14 May 13:59
Killie lay down to Celtic on the final day of the season not so long agoā¦.. looked as if they preferred the green half of Glasgow to win the league that day.
Gers still won it thoughā¦canāt remember who ā lay down ā to them that dayā¦
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 14 May 14:18
I`m growing more pessimistic that NL will not be our manager next year.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Wed 14 May 14:18
Iāll not be getting worried until Lennon is odds on favourite for the Killie (or any other) job.
BET365 have speculated a few names but Lennon is not one of them.
Would like to see him announced as our manager sooner rather than later.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 14 May 15:22
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Wed 14 May 14:18
I`m growing more pessimistic that NL will not be our manager next year.
Have thought this for a few weeks now ,He said he would now by the weekend after our last game ,still nothing
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 14 May 15:39
He is on holiday.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 14 May 16:11
Where is he and when is he getting back?
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Wed 14 May 16:37
If one of the reasons he`s not been announced as the new manager because he is currently on holiday that`s got to be a good thing in my eye`s that means he`s going to have a good 4 or 5 weeks before pre season starts.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Wed 14 May 19:13
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Parsweep, Wed 14 May 09:28
Just out of curiosity , does anyone have any idea when ST`s might go on sale ?
Before end of month payday I`d imagine... but I don`t know.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 15 May 15:56
Killie have changed their mind about having McInnes in charge for their last League game at home to Hearts on Sunday. Last night`s defeat at Motherwell probably didn`t help.
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Thu 15 May 15:59
NL will be announced Friday or Saturday.
Same time as 5% increased price season tickets.
Post Edited (Thu 15 May 16:00)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 15 May 18:02
Quote:
Ladswell_Thistle, Thu 15 May 15:59
NL will be announced Friday or Saturday.
Same time as 5% increased price season tickets.
Really hope so šš»
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 16 May 07:31
As I mentioned a while back, word I had was Lennon had already signed a contract before he sat down with the players to talk about their futures at the club. Looks like things were already in motion behind the scenes.
Wouldnāt be surprised if the official announcement comes out alongside the season ticket pricing, bit of a PR tactic to soften the blow or build a bit of buzz maybe?
Watch this space!!!!
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 16 May 15:49
You have to assume you`re right, Cammy. If not, who is it speaking to the likes of Hamilton?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
Arguably both Tidser and McPake could have kept us up this season and their respective records are not much different anyway albeit Lennon had a shorter spell.
Iād say Lennon is the better of the three because he believes in attacking teams than the turgid defensive minded strategyās of his predecessors.
We just need the right playing staff to carry this out from the back to the front.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 16 May 17:59
Agree with virtually all of that , would also say that of those 3 named . I`d trust Lennon with a transfer kitty a lot more than the other 2 .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 16 May 18:06
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
He doesn`t need to prove himself to us, or anyone.....he has a proven track record of success. Out of the managers working in the Scottish leagues currently, only Celtic`s Brendan Rodgers can hold a candle to him.....only 6 men in history have won more Scottish top tier league championships, but aye, just give him two years. Haha. Should be a 5 year, Golden handcuffs deal. They guy is the real deal, a proven winner
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 16 May 18:12
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Parsweep, Fri 16 May 17:59
Agree with virtually all of that , would also say that of those 3 named . I`d trust Lennon with a transfer kitty a lot more than the other 2 .
Letās not forget both of them leaving is with zero pace or attacking threat. That said, I reckon the first one or two signings will address this.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Fri 16 May 18:15
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 16 May 18:06
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
He doesn`t need to prove himself to us, or anyone.....he has a proven track record of success. Out of the managers working in the Scottish leagues currently, only Celtic`s Brendan Rodgers can hold a candle to him.....only 6 men in history have won more Scottish top tier league championships, but aye, just give him two years. Haha. Should be a 5 year, Golden handcuffs deal. They guy is the real deal, a proven winner
I think I agree red star. He will need at least 3 years to get us to where we need to be. He deserves respect for all that he has achieved in the game. Ultimately it`s down the overall plan for the club and the direction we are going in, and I think as you say NL is a winner, has experience at the top level in Scotland and knows the game here inside out.we could do alot worse. He has nothing to prove to anybody.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Fri 16 May 18:31)
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Fri 16 May 18:27
He needs to prove himself pmsl behave
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Fri 16 May 18:37
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 16 May 18:06
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
He doesn`t need to prove himself to us, or anyone.....he has a proven track record of success. Out of the managers working in the Scottish leagues currently, only Celtic`s Brendan Rodgers can hold a candle to him.....only 6 men in history have won more Scottish top tier league championships, but aye, just give him two years. Haha. Should be a 5 year, Golden handcuffs deal. They guy is the real deal, a proven winner
Red Star Par has pretty much nailed it for me, mental to suggest he has to prove himself to us.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Fri 16 May 18:38
To be fair I think in some ways he does need to prove himself at a club like Dunfermline. The majority of his success to date has been with Celtic, with whom he had vastly superior resources to the rest of the Premier League. When he won the Championship with Hibs, their squad was miles ahead of the likes of Falkirk, Dundee Utd etc.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 16 May 19:10
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
Arguably both Tidser and McPake could have kept us up this season and their respective records are not much different anyway albeit Lennon had a shorter spell.
Iād say Lennon is the better of the three because he believes in attacking teams than the turgid defensive minded strategyās of his predecessors.
We just need the right playing staff to carry this out from the back to the front.
Seriously!
He needs to prove SFA to anyone on here.
Unbelievable!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 16 May 19:33
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 16 May 19:10
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
Arguably both Tidser and McPake could have kept us up this season and their respective records are not much different anyway albeit Lennon had a shorter spell.
Iād say Lennon is the better of the three because he believes in attacking teams than the turgid defensive minded strategyās of his predecessors.
We just need the right playing staff to carry this out from the back to the front.
Seriously!
He needs to prove SFA to anyone on here.
Unbelievable!
Winning things with Celtic is surely not a barometer as to how good he is surely?
Davie Hay won things with Celtic ā¦..
I dare say you, GG could win things with Celtic given the resources.
I really donāt want to be proved right btw and wish him every success with our club but being a champion with Celtic in a two team league doesnāt cut it with me Iām afraid.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 16 May 20:59
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 19:33
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 16 May 19:10
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
Arguably both Tidser and McPake could have kept us up this season and their respective records are not much different anyway albeit Lennon had a shorter spell.
Iād say Lennon is the better of the three because he believes in attacking teams than the turgid defensive minded strategyās of his predecessors.
We just need the right playing staff to carry this out from the back to the front.
Seriously!
He needs to prove SFA to anyone on here.
Unbelievable!
Winning things with Celtic is surely not a barometer as to how good he is surely?
Davie Hay won things with Celtic ā¦..
I dare say you, GG could win things with Celtic given the resources.
I really donāt want to be proved right btw and wish him every success with our club but being a champion with Celtic in a two team league doesnāt cut it with me Iām afraid.
Deary me
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 16 May 21:07
It`s a fair point to say it`s easy to win when at a club like Celtic but that`s disregarding the enormous pressure. Celtic are never expected to lose a game. Even if you win almost all of the time, losing to Rangers can be your undoing.
NL might turn out to be a disaster, but I`m yet to hear a decent alternative. NL has a great opportunity here. He`s got a team that needs building and hopefully a bit of money to do it. We know we need players across the whole team but the key is going to be that elusive striker who can score a bloody goal and a midfielder who can create chances. The guys we have left are a fairly solid nucleus of a team but we need more quality brought in. That will help some of the younger guys to up their game a bit too.
I really hope Cook and co get a bit of cash to build the marketing back up. That season in the first division had some great stuff on the go and I`d love to see it back again. Get the people of Dunfermline being part of the club whether they attend games or not.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 16 May 21:31
I donāt think Lennon has anything to prove. We are fortunate to have him and a three year deal would be a real coup.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 16 May 21:37
Quote:
jake89, Fri 16 May 21:07
It`s a fair point to say it`s easy to win when at a club like Celtic but that`s disregarding the enormous pressure. Celtic are never expected to lose a game. Even if you win almost all of the time, losing to Rangers can be your undoing.
NL might turn out to be a disaster, but I`m yet to hear a decent alternative. NL has a great opportunity here. He`s got a team that needs building and hopefully a bit of money to do it. We know we need players across the whole team but the key is going to be that elusive striker who can score a bloody goal and a midfielder who can create chances. The guys we have left are a fairly solid nucleus of a team but we need more quality brought in. That will help some of the younger guys to up their game a bit too.
I really hope Cook and co get a bit of cash to build the marketing back up. That season in the first division had some great stuff on the go and I`d love to see it back again. Get the people of Dunfermline being part of the club whether they attend games or not.
Iām not disregarding the immense pressure or the attention managing Celtic is.
Youāre only 3 bad results from being under pressure for your job, but he did get the job at the āright timeā when he was very used to the pressure.
I know Iām getting it tight from some here but being an ex player like Lennon at Celtic isnāt a reason he will be a good manager for years to come.
Ally McCoist was shown up to be a crap manager and so is currently one of their finest players in Barry Ferguson who has been rubbish at coaching.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 16 May 22:18
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 21:37
I know Iām getting it tight from some here but being an ex player like Lennon at Celtic isnāt a reason he will be a good manager for years to come.
Being an ex-player isn`t really even relevant now, he`s been retired as a player for some time, during which time he`s won 5 Scottish Premierships, 4 Scottish Cups, 1 League Cup, 1 Scottish Championship with Hibs and a Cypriot Cup. Being an ex-player probably affords you some good will for a short period of time, but it takes seriously good management skills to guide teams to that amount of sustained success
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 17 May 07:08
You also need to add some context to some of those wins. In his first year at Celtic he lost the title to Rangers and the following year Rangers were liquidated. The next season the top 4 was Celtic, Motherwell,St Johnstone and ICT. Motherwell were then runners up again the following season, followed by Aberdeen the next. You would be expecting him to win the league there every season with no real competition at the time.
He went to Bolton on a 4 year deal and lasted less than a year and a half before being fired, they were ultimately relegated finishing 24th. He won 18 of 79 games.
He took a Hibs team with the likes of John McGinn, Martin Boyle, Jason Cummings, Andrew Shinnie,Kris Commons and Brian Graham to the Championship title. They accumulated 1 point more than Alan Stubbs had for them the previous season when they were denied by Rangers. He undoubtedly did a decent job there before he was suspended for disciplinary reasons and left.
He went back to Celtic and won the title in the shortened COVID season but when going for their 10th title in row the next season they lost by 25 points and it was the first time they didn`t win a single trophy since 2010. I`m not sure when they previously lost the title by such a margin. He has an inferior win record to almost all recent Celtic managers and he didn`t have Rangers to contend with for the majority of the time.
He went to Cyprus on a 2 and a half year deal to Omonia, where Henning Berg had previously won the league and he did win the cup against lower league opposition on penalties but was fired less than 6 months into the contract.
Finally he went to Romania on a 2 year deal and lasted 3 months before being sacked without winning a game.
Every time he has been handed out a long deal he seems to be gone within no time.
I look forward to seeing what he can do and I`ll judge him based on what I see on the park rather than what has gone previously. I don`t buy into some of the hyperbole.
Post Edited (Sat 17 May 07:32)
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 18 May 20:57
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 19:33
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PARrot, Fri 16 May 19:10
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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 16 May 17:03
Iād give NL max 2 year contract as it stands.
That might sound harsh but heās still to prove himself with us.
Arguably both Tidser and McPake could have kept us up this season and their respective records are not much different anyway albeit Lennon had a shorter spell.
Iād say Lennon is the better of the three because he believes in attacking teams than the turgid defensive minded strategyās of his predecessors.
We just need the right playing staff to carry this out from the back to the front.
Seriously!
He needs to prove SFA to anyone on here.
Unbelievable!
Winning things with Celtic is surely not a barometer as to how good he is surely?
Davie Hay won things with Celtic ā¦..
I dare say you, GG could win things with Celtic given the resources.
I really donāt want to be proved right btw and wish him every success with our club but being a champion with Celtic in a two team league doesnāt cut it with me Iām afraid.
What did I do or say to merit such a stunning reference from you, AAPS? š¤š
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Mon 19 May 02:26
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parathletic, Sat 17 May 07:08
You also need to add some context to some of those wins. In his first year at Celtic he lost the title to Rangers and the following year Rangers were liquidated. The next season the top 4 was Celtic, Motherwell,St Johnstone and ICT. Motherwell were then runners up again the following season, followed by Aberdeen the next. You would be expecting him to win the league there every season with no real competition at the time.
He went to Bolton on a 4 year deal and lasted less than a year and a half before being fired, they were ultimately relegated finishing 24th. He won 18 of 79 games.
He took a Hibs team with the likes of John McGinn, Martin Boyle, Jason Cummings, Andrew Shinnie,Kris Commons and Brian Graham to the Championship title. They accumulated 1 point more than Alan Stubbs had for them the previous season when they were denied by Rangers. He undoubtedly did a decent job there before he was suspended for disciplinary reasons and left.
He went back to Celtic and won the title in the shortened COVID season but when going for their 10th title in row the next season they lost by 25 points and it was the first time they didn`t win a single trophy since 2010. I`m not sure when they previously lost the title by such a margin. He has an inferior win record to almost all recent Celtic managers and he didn`t have Rangers to contend with for the majority of the time.
He went to Cyprus on a 2 and a half year deal to Omonia, where Henning Berg had previously won the league and he did win the cup against lower league opposition on penalties but was fired less than 6 months into the contract.
Finally he went to Romania on a 2 year deal and lasted 3 months before being sacked without winning a game.
Every time he has been handed out a long deal he seems to be gone within no time.
I look forward to seeing what he can do and I`ll judge him based on what I see on the park rather than what has gone previously. I don`t buy into some of the hyperbole.
Post Edited (Sat 17 May 07:32)
Well, when you put it like thatā¦maybe we should try and get Lanza John instead ;)
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