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Topic Originator: Sligo Mick
Date: Fri 11 Oct 07:43
Will Buffy be doing updates from The Court of Session ? ;)
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Topic Originator: Geordie Drain Pipe
Date: Fri 11 Oct 07:44
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 08:11
Lol Sligo :-)
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 08:13
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 08:35
Jamie Borthwick from STV Sport said on Twitter last night they hope to have someone at the Court today doing live updates.
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 09:38
According to GPar on the ParsAlive Forum;
"@carasulieman to be in court today for STV."
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Oct 09:43
What time is the hearing?
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 09:43
11am. I'm not overly worried about this
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Topic Originator: Perkopar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 10:07
From twitter:
@stvAndyC: @gordonscottish @STVSport @STVGrant I'll be at the hearing and tweet as soon as a result. Report on stv news at six. #DAFC
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:00
Due at 11 but delayed.
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:00
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:05
court pushed back to 12 oclock
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:06
due to computers in the court
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Thicko
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:12
"due to computers in the court"
Are the computers pleading guilty?
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:16
No tweets allowed from inside the courtroom. No one applied for permission so judge has not approved it. Need to wait til it's over I think.
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:17
Killed by computer crash at the court.
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:27
Didn't.....any of the media think to apply for permission??.....
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:29
No they didn't according to cara sulieman.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:41
FFS
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:53
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:54
Aye hud up
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:54
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 11:55
For any John Q Laws reading this, the above are clearly jokes... :-)
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:00
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Topic Originator: Thaipar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:06
where is the latest has server failed??
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Topic Originator: GaryMull86
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:10
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 2m
About to go into DAFC hearing. As I said, will tweet updates in the breaks.
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:15
five minute walk from my work as well, should have taken a walk along
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Topic Originator: Paradox
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:36
I have asked Cara to add the hashtag #parsupdates to her Tweets for anyne following this on Twitter.
I will also try to post regular updates on the DAFC.net Facebook page.
Fingers x'd!
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:43
they have been X'd from wednesday around 6pm
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:47
Jesus tap dancing christ, following "dunfermline" on twitter and it's just endless by election guff. FFS...
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:53
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:57
For anyone wanting to follow it on Twitter (doesn't matter if you use twitter or have an account, it's all public):
"Dunfermline": http://bit.ly/GJeNtr
"Masterton": http://bit.ly/1hHxjha
"#parsupdates": http://bit.ly/1g5qFpv
@carasulieman: http://bit.ly/GJeXB1
EDIT: here's a link to search "Dunfermline" which excludes a fair number of by-election type terms, (though not all): http://bit.ly/1foIK0u
(updated to remove even more political stuff, 13.18)
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Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 13:18 )
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 12:59
If only someone had asked I would gladly have gone to the court. It's just ten mins away. Alas the use of mobile phones is prohibited in any court room and anyone involved in a case would have to adhere to confidentiality.
It's not a surprise the media didn't consider the permissions - they think they can just wander about wherever they like.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:05
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:05
Cara S: "We've broken for lunch. So far heard from petitioners who want Lord Woolman to grant an interdict to stop BDO from renouncing the lease"
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:06
So Gavs had his say then
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 13:06 )
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:07
45 minutes and they break for lunch. What are they on.
Could they not have eaten when the computers were down.
Absolutely ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:08
Anyone confident?
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Topic Originator: Mince Pie or Steak Pie?
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:09
Petitioners are Charlestown ltd.
Steak Pie gives me the runs!
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:10
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:10
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:10
Cara Sulieman@carasulieman2m
The petitioners want the lease for Pitreavie and say they have the funds available to pay off rent arrears to Fife Council and other debts
Sorry for being daft here, but if they want it and the club don't then why can they not just sign it over?
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:11
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:11
So is it, in reality, up to Fife Council whether they want to sell it or not!? If so, surely they'd take the money...? :(
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:12
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Topic Originator: GaryMull86
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:12
Surely if they are in arrears then fife council are well within there rights to rip up the contract?
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:12
EDIT - I think this may all be utter nonsense! Will leave it for posterity though:
I think it's because Fife council hold the lease and we are the 'tenants' - we want to get out of being the tenants, which FC will agree to, but GM (et al) won't. They want to become our landlords and hold us to the lease (which we can't afford).
I think...
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Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 13:26 )
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:14
Normal court procedure Sabino.
Every other case proceeding this one will be running late / postponed. A sheriff's / acting solicitors' nightmare never mind the clients.
**my typing speed is atrocious - lack of every day typing :-( **
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 13:18 )
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:14
@carasulieman: Petitioners say lease being renounced is not a condition of the Pars Utd offer or the CVA.
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:15
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:17
Also he is concerned about his pension fund, which is tied in with the lease I think
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Topic Originator: VsPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:17
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Petitioners told court in the CVA, the leasehold is valued as £143,266 but they have separate valuation of over £600,000.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:18
@carasulieman: Petitioner also said Fife Council hadn't been asked if the lease could be renounced until Weds and it would take 7 days to decide.
Interesting
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Topic Originator: VsPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:19
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 59s
Fife Council have a representative at court in case the judge has any questions for them.
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Petitioner also said Fife Council hadn't been asked if the lease could be renounced until Weds and it would take 7 days to decide.
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:20
Masterton and his made up valuations again, he must still have valuers willing to lie for him
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:20
@carasulieman: Petitioners told court in the CVA, the leasehold is valued as £143,266 but they have separate valuation of over £600,000.
Masterton finding someone to massively overvalue an asset? Not seen that one before . . .
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Topic Originator: Digs
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:22
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Petitioners told court in the CVA, the leasehold is valued as £143,266 but they have separate valuation of over £600,000.
Where have I heard wildly exaggerated valuations before?...
Stair Maistreas na Beatha
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:27
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Topic Originator: Swainy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:27
Pitreavie 2020 ltd has a a loan of 2m available to pay off 1.5m of debts
D.A are the number one!
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:28
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:29
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:30
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:31
Switzerland isn't just a random location for him to travel back and forth from.
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:32
If SP is correct, and GM wants to be our landlord, and plays hardball with us, the big question for me is what happens if we default on that lease... what penalties are in the lease contract to cover that eventuality???
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:34
I doubt he would be able to secure that cash himself.
Maybe check the owershp of pitreavie 2020 limited would be a start
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Topic Originator: GautengPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:34
what if we just choose to train elsewhere as we don't want to be associated with that wee turd?
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:34
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Topic Originator: allforone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:35
"If SP is correct, and GM wants to be our landlord, and plays hardball with us, the big question for me is what happens if we default on that lease... what penalties are in the lease contract to cover that eventuality???"
Pretty sure in that instance, although we wouldnt be paying rent, the landlord is still entitled to chase the tenant for any costs relating to the condition of the property, should the lease state so. This seems to be the bigger issue rather than the actual payment of rent.
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:35
if we still have a lease in place with him then he will demand the money owed to him, even if we train there or not
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:37
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Topic Originator: GautengPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:37
If he wants the lease and we don't then are we bound by anything or free to choose?
I thought that Andrew Carnegie gited the land to the people of Dunfermline - so it can't be built on?
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Topic Originator: allforone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:38
"The daft auld bat thinks he can build houses on Pitreavie. That is his only interest as far as I'm concerned. I absolutely loathe him."
He has obviously never read the planning permission notice on the place then.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:38
Andrew Chambers @stvAndyC 2m
Essentially, Petitioners Charlston Holdings (IMasterton) say the lease on Pitreavie was NOT mentioned in CVA agreement or condition of sale
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:38
Andrew Chambers @stvAndyC 4s
They (Masterton) want the lease to transfer to them, leaving BDO to proceed with Pars Utd. And say they can pay rent arrears immediately.
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Topic Originator: EastLothianPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:38
Cheers Honk - you've backed up my thinking a bit. Couldn't understand why he'd want the ground for anything other than houses. I'd imagine the council would be accommodating if they were getting their cash as well?
What I don't understand is why there's an issue? He wants the lease, we don't...the council are told they'll get their cash (ahem!)...am i missing something?? Is it that we want the lease ripped up and a new one granted but GM doesn't as he wants to build down there?
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:38
Quote:
GautengPar, Fri 11 Oct 13:37
If he wants the lease and we don't then are we bound by anything or free to choose?
I thought that Andrew Carnegie gited the land to the people of Dunfermline - so it can't be built on?
Wasn't that just the Glen?
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Topic Originator: Gus
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:39
Oh the irony in wee Penfold wanting DAFC to pay rent!
Unpaid rent and bills seemed to feature heavily in the mess he left at East End.
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:39
Correct crabbit amd last I checked two weeks ago it has one shareholder and director
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:40
Same old same old. Money miraculously appears as the business makes a loss.
Doesn't anyone check financial history backgrounds anymore?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:42
Buffy, the background check on Masterton would no doubt uncover a lot of dirt on many high profile people in this country.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:44
Cara S "Petitioner also said Fife Council hadn't been asked if the lease could be renounced until Weds and it would take 7 days to decide"
Is that right? Take it that means BDO have sat on it as I thought it was always a condition that the lease was renounced?
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:44
like I say Lorna I doubt its his money, his motive in this is to stop his pension fundbeing called in if this lease is ripped up.And he has obviously made promises to an investor friend to buy the license/lease to stop this happening and they can make money off it. Porobably through houses is the plan.
Thats the way I have picked it up from a few folk that have been pretty clued up thus far and from the other reports.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:44
I'm keeping tabs on yer posts Allforone even if naebuddy else is :-)
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:46
From what I've read I'm pretty confused.
Why is GM so keen to get the leasehold? From what I've read in the twitter feeds there is a loan of £2m to clear £1.5m of arrears on the lease.
The lease has a CVA estimated value of £143,226 or a GM value of £600k. Either way you are talking of forking out more to clear the arrears than the lease is worth?
Is GM worried that by making the request to release the leasehold that the council may call in the security on the lease against the pension fund? Has the council indicated they would do that?
Even if they did was the security not capped at £500k and it would be better to potentially loose that in a onner than fork out £1.5 to clear arrears and whatever else it costs for the remainder of the lease when the expected return by your own best figure is 600k (significantly more than anyone else thinks its worth!).
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:48
Started typing my post before I read:
"The daft auld bat thinks he can build houses on Pitreavie. That is his only interest as far as I'm concerned. I absolutely loathe him."
Which would be an explanation..
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:49
Surely after coming out of admin we are under no obligation to train at pitreavie?
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:50
<<Andrew Chambers @stvAndyC 4s
They (Masterton) want the lease to transfer to them, leaving BDO to proceed with Pars Utd. And say they can pay rent arrears immediately>>
<<What I don't understand is why there's an issue? He wants the lease, we don't...the council are told they'll get their cash (ahem!)...am i missing something?? Is it that we want the lease ripped up and a new one granted but GM doesn't as he wants to build down there>>
SO WHERE LIES THE PROBLEM ???????
Seems so straight forward but is apparently very complex !!!!!! Help me oot here somebody...... Anybody ??!!
2022/23 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:50
We'll train where we want.... We'll train where we waaaant...
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:52
so who owns petreive aa the moment
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:53
Hang on a second....having to break my dot net sabbatical to raise this but since when did holding a lease on something mean that you can do what you want with it? If Masterton manages to clear the debts and keep the lease with fife council then fife council are still the owners. Surely the conditions of the lease would not extend to Masterton selling it for the purpose of building houses. It wouldn't be his to sell!!
Sorry guys....but you're on the wrong track here.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:54
could always train at steelend now.
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:54
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:52
so who owns petreive aa the moment
c'mon the pars
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Fife council. This court case has nothing to do with transferring ownership.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:55
DrumRoad - I think the problem is that if the lease exists we as a tenant are committed to fulfil the terms of that lease which will cost money we do not have so doesn't matter where we train. Suspect those terms will relate to the condition it is maintained and ongoing rental.
Just my interpretation
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:55
Andy, I realise this, you realise this, Honk realises this
Does Gavin realise this?
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:55
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Topic Originator: parskimbo
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:57
They can't build houses... it floods.
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Topic Originator: Bath Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:00
"Surely the conditions of the lease would not extend to Masterton selling it for the purpose of building houses. It wouldn't be his to sell!"
Agreed.
I am not following what the problem is here at all, PU don't want Pitreavie, GM apparently does, don't see an issue.
UNLESS, he is claiming that he will lose his pension fund when Pitreavie is handed back to FC because the terms of the lease have not been met, regarding the maintenance and upkeep?
Simply a guess, not based on any facts.
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Topic Originator: Gus
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:00
Topic Originator: Fifes Elite
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:55
Andy, I realise this, you realise this, Honk realises this
Does Gavin realise this?
Check Honk's "Tom Minogues' Blog" thread for more on this. Makes GM's actions seem pretty desperate and way, way out order under the terms and general spirit of the head lease.
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Topic Originator: GaryMull86
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:00
sure there been mentioned there is a purchase option on the lease or something?
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:01
Fife council own pitreavie and currently lease it to DAFC ltd (or some company) who in turn lease it to DAFC to use for training.
The only thing I can see, is that by him getting hold of the lease, he reckons he's going to get a fair bit of cash renting it to the pars. Maybe theres nothing in the contract about rent increases so he can charge us 10x what we are paying now?
Wonder if he'll accept a table at hospitality as a years payment.......
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Topic Originator: Digs
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:02
Pup - not unless we pay £25k to the farmer who owns it. This was the issue last season and I'm guessing is the reason Steelend no longer use it.
They had it on a long term lease with a former landowner who took a token rent of £1 per year. She sold up and the new guy demanded £25k or get orf his laaaand.
Stair Maistreas na Beatha
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:03
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Topic Originator: Bath Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:03
Scotty, I don't get that. PU can tell him to ram it and go and train anywhere they can make arrangements. I can't see how PU can be committed to Pitreavie in a legal sense.
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Topic Originator: allforone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:04
On a side note Steelend Vics have folded :(
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:05
Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 13:54
<<This court case has nothing to do with transferring ownership>>
I think I will go with the above as we appear to have a willing "seller" in BDO & a willing "buyer" in FRC with regards Pitreavie lease.... So why not deal done!
I read stuff to do with GM pension funds tied in some way to Pitreavie & intertwined with The Pars Trust....... That's no the PST BTW.
I can't make sense of it but the scenario would explain why GM has put his head above the parapet once more.
2022/23 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:10
so if it stays the same nothing changes how will this effect us ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Ross Jack Stole My Hat
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:19
Way too confusing for a dullard like me.
Give me the news we aren't getting liquidated and that P.U can take over and I'm a happy/very relieved man.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:24
So, a loss making business - run by a known failed business family member - is to be transformed by a magical thin air loan from a newly formed operation based in a house in Kirkcaldy to ensure a former failed football club owner doesn't lose his pension and to build pretend castles on an area of land which can only be used for commercial use?
I'm seeing Danny deVito in the lead role with munchkins for the rest!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:57
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Topic Originator: the calimero kid
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:59
Who in their right mind would gamble their pension on something like a training ground?
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 14:59
A mindless tw*t.
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:05
Really shows how the Bank Of Scotland got in such a mess when guys like him were laying the foundations........
It's all risk risk risk with little thought towards the consequences.
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Topic Originator: Skysurf
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:06
An idiot.
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Topic Originator: Cisco
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:08
Why does he even want the training ground?
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:09
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Topic Originator: Skysurf
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:17
So, an incompetent idiot. Why is this clown even bothering with all this, other than vengeance? What a thoroughly abhorrent individual we are dealing with.
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Topic Originator: the calimero kid
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:18
Seriously Honk? Thats absolutely bonkers. Obviously trying to be smarter than they really are.
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Topic Originator: we won the cup in 68
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:18
Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:05
"Really shows how the Bank Of Scotland got in such a mess when guys like him were laying the foundations........
It's all risk risk risk with little thought towards the consequences."
For the record, Bank of Scotland at the time was solvent, they had attempted to buy Nat West but lost out to RBS and as such became a target for a predatory take over. With a view to avoiding this, they merged with the Halifax B.S. The merger took place in 2001 and Masterton retired in June 2001.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:22
Andy Hornby is your main man if you're looking blame there...
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:23
I miss my Hornby train set of my youth.
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Topic Originator: we won the cup in 68
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:24
I would argue James Crosby and Peter Cummings. Hornby inherited a whole world of mess and Crosby then got a job with the FSA!!
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:27
Sorry to keep asking this but are people confident? I have no idea how good a chance we have of avoiding relegation and the waiting is torture :(
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:27
"For the record, Bank of Scotland at the time was solvent, they had attempted to buy Nat West but lost out to RBS and as such became a target for a predatory take over. With a view to avoiding this, they merged with the Halifax B.S. The merger took place in 2001 and Masterton retired in June 2001."
They may have been solvent at the time but they were well on the road to their failing due to the culture of lending the Masterton and his mates has started. Well worth a read : http://www.ianfraser.org/revealed-the-extent-of-peter-cummings-recklessness/
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:32
True main man was a bit harsh but a huge part of the "throw money at everyone" came from his (and others - particularly the two you mention) changes in policy after the Halifax merger.
Hornby was doing it on the retail side (to start) and Cummings was on the corporate from what I remeber.
The appointment of Crosby as head of the FSA was nothing short of a scandal seeing as how he was essentially placed in charge of overseeing complaints against his time at HBOS.
Funnily enough,nothing really happened.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:32
dafcburty to tell you the truth I dont know wot the feck is goin on
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: we won the cup in 68
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:37
Halifax never had a Corporate arm, Cummings was given free reign and the rest is history. Cummings was the only one ever fined over the whole disaster.
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:38
Pretty much all the banks were at fault for the collapse in 2007/2008. They interlinked so much debt amongst themselves that when the housing market crashed in the States, everyone was exposed to it (HSBC amongst the most at risk on the face of it) and inevitably they all suffered.
Whoever it was that suggested reading "The Big Short" I thank them a lot, it gives a really good insight into what happened.
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Topic Originator: Minchy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:41
nice read, JohnnyW. is this not criminal? obviously not, but it would make a great investigative TV program if all the "crimes" of GM and his BoS colleagues were brought together in an hour at prime TV time.
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Topic Originator: Thai/Coalville Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:43
It's all very well everyone looking at history of bank failures - What is happening in court?
Peter L
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:43
Any more actual updates guys?
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Topic Originator: GaryMull86
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:44
no updates till they are out as they are unable to tweet from court
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:46
can we start a new update thread as I am pissed off reading about banks crimes. I want to know whats happening about The Pars
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:48
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:51
As an aside.
All credit to STV for sending along 2 journos to cover this.
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:51
Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:27
Sorry to keep asking this but are people confident? I have no idea how good a chance we have of avoiding relegation and the waiting is torture :(
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I can safely say that we will not be relegated today. :)
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:52
Has anyone got any happy/positive stories about bankers (that doesn't involved them being hurt, fined, arrested or being dodgy etc)?
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Topic Originator: Thicko
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:54
"Has anyone got any happy/positive stories about bankers (that doesn't involved them being hurt, fined, arrested or being dodgy etc)?"
No.
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Topic Originator: allforone
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:55
"Has anyone got any happy/positive stories about bankers (that doesn't involved them being hurt, fined, arrested or being dodgy etc)?"
I was the banker in Monopoly once and won.
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:58
Theyre out, waiting on verdict now....
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:58
@carasulieman: Right, Lord Woolman is off to decide whether or not to grant the interdict.
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:58
Monopoly banker twice and only won once!!
You're worse than useless. Can you not cheat properly?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:00
Administrators said if the interdict is granted, DAFC will be out in liquidation on Monday morning.
Administrators said DAFC need £100,000 to stay in business for the next fortnight.
Fife Council will not agree to lease being handed over to Pitreavie 20-20 as they don't consider them "of good financial standing".
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:00
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Administrators said if the interdict is granted, DAFC will be out in liquidation on Monday morning.
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:00
In fairness quite often the bank runs out of money too in monopoly
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:00
Squeekybum time! Come on Lord Woolman do the right thing!!!
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Topic Originator: JBPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:01
No idea who Lord Woolman is, but come on...
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:01
"Fife Council will not agree to lease being handed over to Pitreavie 20-20 as they don't consider them "of good financial standing"."
Can't argue with that...
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:01
em what!!
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 16:02 )
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:02
What does this mean??
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:03
FFS. :(
I havent a clue what's happened here. Sad times. Mon Lord Woolman, be a Par!
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:03
Where will the £100,000 come from ?
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:03
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 36s
Pars Utd will not sign sale and purchase agreement if any motion from the petitioners is granted.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:04
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Lord Woolman said: "It seems a very odd impasse to have reached. I'm very concerned about the position that we all find ourselves in."
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Topic Originator: Tekkers
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:05
****...
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:05
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman now
Sorry- the administrators will place club IN liquidation on Mon if either no decision made today OR if judge decides in favour of petitioner
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:05
" the administrators will place club IN liquidation on Mon if either no decision made today OR if judge decides in favour of petitioner"
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 23s
Sorry- the administrators will place club IN liquidation on Mon if either no decision made today OR if judge decides in favour of petitioner
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
But theres no way he will decide in favour of it after Fife Councils statement........
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Topic Originator: Tekkers
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
hopefully a decision will be made today. can't have this hanging over us the whole weekend.
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 16:07 )
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Topic Originator: TAMPAR54
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
Well done Pars Utd, that takes balls.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 35s
Judge will make a decision today - that's what he's off to do now. Will come back after a "short break". No idea exactly how long.
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:09
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 43s
Administrators said funding has run out and there is no money to run club. Either Pars Utd need to take over or liquidation.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:09
Not good
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:09
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 36s
Administrators said funding has run out and there is no money to run club. Either Pars Utd need to take over or liquidation.
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:09
Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:06
But theres no way he will decide in favour of it after Fife Councils statement........
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Why not?? Fife council might not have grounds for terminating the lease if Masterton clears all debts
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:10
THIS IS ****** TENSE
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:10
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 37s
Only reason liquidation could not happen today is because one of the administrators is in London.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:11
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 48s
Only reason liquidation could not happen today is because one of the administrators is in London.
Eh?.. totally confused now..
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:11
Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:03
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 36s
Pars Utd will not sign sale and purchase agreement if any motion from the petitioners is granted.
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I hope they're able to explain this decision clearly to the fans.
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Topic Originator: honk
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:11
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:11
and players and staff
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:12
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 16s
Petitioners say there are 2 options; interim interdict or calling up notice.
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Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 47s
Basically, administrators said Pars Utd will not sign sale agreement if the lease is in any way attached to the club.
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:12
Why not?? Fife council might not have grounds for terminating the lease if Masterton clears all debts
Maybe I'm naïve but has Masterton got any business clearing the debt? If the council and Pars United are happy to agree to cancel the agreement, what business is it of GM?
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:12
"I hope they're able to explain this decision clearly to the fans."
They can't take on the debt that come with the lease. simple as that.
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:13
I dont like odds like this
Judge fails to decide today....liquidated
Judge decides today in favour of plaintif........liquidated
Judge decides today against plaintif......"solidified!"
I'm more liquid than solid at the moment
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:13
I hope they're able to explain this decision clearly to the fans.
I can't profess to understand all this since it's happened so quickly, but I assume PU can't sign it if it's not in business plan because they can't afford it. Can't exactly expect them to sign it if they don't have the money for it.
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Topic Originator: Tekkers
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:14
everybody chill... Gavin promised us remember? He said we wouldn't go into liquidation.
It's all going to be fine....
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Topic Originator: portypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:14
@carasulieman on twitter in court giving up to minute updates
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:14
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 28s
Calling up notice would see rent arrears and 2 years rent paid to council but liabilities would stay with club. There's 50 yrs left on lease
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:15
" Maybe I'm naïve but has Masterton got any business clearing the debt? If the council and Pars United are happy to agree to cancel the agreement, what business is it of GM? "
Exactly what I was thinking SB.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:15
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman now
Petitioners said liquidation would be "extremely regrettable".
Yeah RIGHT!! I smell Shii
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Topic Originator: Frank Grimes
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:15
"Petitioners said liquidation would be "extremely regrettable".
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:15
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman Petitioners said liquidation would be "extremley regretable"
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Topic Originator: JBPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:17
Aye very good petitioners, so much for it being 100% not going to happen.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:17
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 26s
I think that sums it up. Judge took a lot of time to question both sides - he seems genuinely concerned that both parties might lose out
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:18
I'm guessing that will be seen as a victory by GM. He's not in it to win. He's in it it to kill the pars.
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Topic Originator: Thicko
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:18
Why the hell didn't BDO have this sorted out ages ago?
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Topic Originator: sabino
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:19
Judge took a lot of time to question both sides - he seems genuinely concerned that both parties might lose out.
Or, if I'm going down then you can come with me!
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:20
They are going back in.... here we go then folks
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:20
Indeed Thicko, it seems like somebody has monumentally bollocked up here
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:20
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 12s
We're going back in. Will tweet result as soon as I can but Internet is ropey down in court basement.
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:21
He didn't take *that* long to deliberate considering what's at stake.
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:22
Hopefully they head back to court to see Lord Woolman sitting in his Sammy the Tammy costume, feet up and a big banner on the wall: "Masterton's a f*nny."
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:22
hahaha amazing
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:23
Andrew Chambers @stvAndyC 5m
Recess while Lord Woolman tries to unscramble almighty mess + come to decision over DAFC. Impasse reached.liquidation very real possibility.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:23
Surely he can't rule in favour of one mans interest against a whole community ?
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Topic Originator: Skanky jake
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:23
Bricking it here, cant believe its come to this after i assumed we were safe :(
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Topic Originator: JBPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
Masterton's petition refused!!!
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Topic Originator: Steak_Bridie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 13s
Lord Woolman has refused the petition from Gavin Masterton.
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Topic Originator: Weegie Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
MASTERTON TOLD TO GTF!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
Yaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssssss F*ck you masterton
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
Lord Woolman has refused the petition from Gavin Masterton.
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Topic Originator: Scotty Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
REFUSED!!
GET ME A BEER!!
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Topic Originator: JBPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
http://news.stv.tv/east-central/242880-live-updates-gavin-masterton-tries-to-block-dunfermline-athletic-cva/
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Topic Originator: Thicko
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:24
Excellent!!
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
YAAAASSSS!!!
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
Give that Lord a Season Ticket!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
Yeeeeeeeeeeha!!!!
Petition not granted!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Groovydave1973
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
Thank ****!
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 1m
Lord Woolman has refused the petition from Gavin Masterton.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:25
Yassssssss!!! **** you Masterton u wee bawbag!!!
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Topic Originator: fatherlandpar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
pars safe
mona vie its the future
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Topic Originator: mcfc-par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
Brilliant! :-)
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
Petition REJECTED
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
Thank you Lord Wolman, honorary Par :-)
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
GIRUFY you scumbag, don't bother showing your face again, not even if you pay in. Not even to apologise you are NOT wanted.
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 23s
Judge said the balance of convenience tips in favour of the respondents (administrators).
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:26
So, someone tell me, are we definitely 100% safe now? I'm literally in tears here.
***Red carded despite breaking no rules, not swearing and not being abusive. ThaiPar out***
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:27
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Topic Originator: Thaipar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:27
thank **** sense prevailed.
get BDO at EEP monday morning when WE fans can take control.
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Topic Originator: TAMPAR54
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:27
Let's get the deal done and dusted before the little s**t appeals.
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Topic Originator: Skanky jake
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:27
Superb, well played Lord Woolman.
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Topic Originator: penapar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:27
Yes Basterton lost
penapar
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 11s
Judge: "The court has to make an anxious decision within a very tight timescale."
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Topic Originator: Auld_Reekie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
So, someone tell me, are we definitely 100% safe now? I'm literally in tears here.
I couldn't honestly tell you. And I'm somewhat unnerved at how quickly things turned sour this week. The sooner this nonsense is signed over to PU the better.
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Topic Originator: Superally
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
Bloody brilliant news was absolutely keggin ma breeks
2009/10, 2010/11, 2013/14, 2015/16 dafc.net Prediction League Champion
It's a well known medical fact that some men were born two drams below par.
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Topic Originator: Dario
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
Looking good, onwards and upwards!
Keep the Faith!
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
Andrew Chambers @stvAndyC 37s
Interdict application refused by Lord Woolman. Liquidation avoided for #DAFC Pars United take over can now go ahead.
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Topic Originator: dafcburty
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:28
Yaaaaaas!!! :)
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Topic Originator: Brewster
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:29
Before we get too cocky let's be sure there is no Appeal open to Masterton. If there was and he exercised his right we could still be back in the mire.
Maybe someone can clarify this point - any legal eagles around ?
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Topic Originator: Tekkers
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:29
what about the 100k to last two weeks?
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Topic Originator: calytiff
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:30
that really has been the longest day
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:30
Lord Woolman is a par
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Topic Originator: Thaipar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:30
Quote:
Tekkers, Fri 11 Oct 16:29
what about the 100k to last two weeks?
irrelevant.
PU will take control on Monday.
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Topic Originator: saltashpar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:31
Yes yes yes. There is a God!!!
Longest afternoon of my life!
COYP
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:31
Just about to head to a free bar. Timing could not be more perfect :-)
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Topic Originator: tenruh
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:31
Back to the soup and sandwich debate please
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:32
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 9s
Basically, the lease will be renounced, Pars Utd will sign the sale agreement and the takeover will continue.
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Topic Originator: Skanky jake
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:32
To me these actions were out of spite to try get back at people he feels have bumped him out of his money. So happy that the judge has seen through his pash.
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Topic Originator: londonparsclub
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:32
I've not been in so much anguish since I caught my c*ck in my zip...
Those who know best know those who know few!
Now **** off Gavin.
Hope we meet again at the bus stop!
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Topic Originator: DavieG
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:32
can someone from PU let us know for definite if all is good ... before i go for a few beers after a long long long afternoon
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:33
Topic Originator: Turpintine
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:30
Lord Woolman is a par
sounds more like an Aberdeen fan to me :) but we can adopt him
lets get this thing tied up, and we can go onwards and upwards as OUR club
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Topic Originator: handsomebass
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:33
Right. Who want's a bowl of soup? :)
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:33
Nerve wracking but great decision is in our favour
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Topic Originator: pars_andy
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
Absolutely delighted!!
This quote will stick with me though. "Petitioners said liquidation would be "extremely regrettable"."
GIRFUY!!!!
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
Somebody photoshop this into a pars top!
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Topic Originator: Superally
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
There is only one Lord Woolman, one Lord Woolman. ............
2009/10, 2010/11, 2013/14, 2015/16 dafc.net Prediction League Champion
It's a well known medical fact that some men were born two drams below par.
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Topic Originator: Hunky Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
My guts have been churning, my hands have been fishing with sweat and my heads been all over the place for the past 4 and 1/2 hours
Thank **** that is over
Im not even in the mood to celebrate the now and just ****** relieved, that was worse than cva day
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 16:35 )
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Topic Originator: Oxpar1
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
I can see the Talisker getting a seeing to tonight.........
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Topic Originator: What?-Ivo@centrehalf
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:34
Excellent - I honestly thought we were in trouble.
Now lets be the stand out club in Scotland, run by fans for fans! Support clubs, youth teams, supporter events etc etc!
Spl, championship, first division doesn't matter, lets just do it right and be proud!
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Topic Originator: DRFC_no1
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:35
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Topic Originator: SanguinePar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:35
Back to the soup and sandwich debate please
lol! :-)
***Red carded despite breaking no rules, not swearing and not being abusive. ThaiPar out***
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:37
Oi Gavin....... YOU FAILED now please do us a favour and F*CK OFF
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Topic Originator: JohnnyW
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:38
Going to get smashed tonight, if I see Woolman up the town the drinks are on me!!!
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Best tweet ever:
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Topic Originator: JohnnyG
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:38
Can we please settle down now and get back to actually talking about a game.Cant go through all this anxiety again.My auld ticker canny take anymore.Lets get on and get promoted.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:41
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 3m
Leaving court, administrators said they are "relieved" by the decision.
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Topic Originator: cmonpar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:44
That was a really sh*t afternoon, never want to go through that again, half dozen stellas chillin in the fridge. COYP
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:45
Unbelievable stuff. And to think we are all fairly calm at the start of the week, ticking down the days to PU taking over. Then this explodes....
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Topic Originator: The Roy Barry Fan Club
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:47
A massive victory for the people of Dunfermline.
Could not be more pleased for the hundreds and hundreds of folk who have put so much effort into saving the club over the past nine months.
COYP indeed.
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:51
Another ten tickets sold today for the Supporters/players Ceilidh on the 30th November in the Glen Pavilion. Let's pack the place out, and have a guid houli night out for a celebration. Tickets available at the Supporters shop and the club shop. , and direct from Billy George. COYP.
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:52
My 4 year old came running through when I cheered (he's used to this from a Saturday) and said "did the Pars win?" (thinking there must be a game on today). To which I replied "yes son, they just won the biggest match they've ever played". "Cool" he said. My sentiments exactly.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:52
Just finished a meeting so wasn't able to keep track of this - not a bad way to kick off the weekend :-)
"Fife Council will not agree to lease being handed over to Pitreavie 20-20 as they don't consider them "of good financial standing"."
Hahahaha
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:52
Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 6s
With that, my job here is done. Thanks for all your declarations of love - I'm blushing. Normal service (cakes & penguins) will now resume.
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Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 4m
Ross MacArthur said: "I wouldn't have liked to have been in the judges position. I'm glad he came out on the side of the football club."
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Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 6m
Pars Utd hope to be in position to sign sale agreement early next week.
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Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 6m
I asked about possible appeal - it is possible but "unlikely".
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Cara Sulieman @carasulieman 8m
Ross MacArthur from Pars Utd says they are "absolutely delighted" by the outcome. He also thanked fans for their support.
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Topic Originator: Metapar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:53
At last, I can give the sharting at work a rest
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Topic Originator: Skypar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:56
Beer is going to taste good tonight..
Fingers crossed Pars united take over early next week.
What a day!!
Can't wait now to get back to Eastend on the 19th!
COYP
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:59
sonofpetrie I was sitting here trying to keep myself from crying and you sent me over the edge. Well done to the grandson of petrie ;-)
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:02
sonofpetrie I was sitting here trying to keep myself from crying and you sent me over the edge. Well done to the grandson of petrie ;-)
Yup, he tipped me over the edge too. I went from wet eyes to floods.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: Crabbit
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:03
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Topic Originator: DavieG
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:03
floods of happy tears though sonofpetrie :-)
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Topic Originator: JBPar
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:08
Very good :-)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:11
Quote:
MagicParMan, Fri 11 Oct 17:05
I'm stealing this if that's ok? Lol
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:12
Nice bottle of red getting popped tonight, COYP!!!!
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:17
<<Is an appeal likely>>
In Scottish Law, the judge has to give a plaintiff or defendant permission for "leave to appeal"...... There is no automatic right of appeal in Scottish courts "without reasonable cause" ................ Or somit like that.
Away for a beer :)
Edit to say,...... MagicParMan...... I like it :)
2022/23 League one Winners
Post Edited ( Fri 11 Oct 18:43 )
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Topic Originator: R8V10
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:24
Get it right ****** roond ye Masterton. We came literally a bawhair away from liquidation never, ever, have i felt a sense of relief after this! **** you for putting all us Pars fans through the mill ONCE more. I hope your next ***** is the spikiest hedgehog ever.
C'mon PU get this deal done & dusted and lets move on.
Gonna be hangover city the mora!
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:25
floods of happy tears though sonofpetrie :-)
The happiest. He was singing Pars songs yesterday and when he saw the DAFC badge on the TV he was all exited. It broke my heart to think he might not get to go to the next 30 years worth of games like I just did with my Dad. I will tell him all about this day when he's older.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: Orangeryhoor
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:40
sonofpetrie...I welled up big time there....Nice one...
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:41
Brilliant news and what brilliant posts from sonofpetrie - EXACTLY why we have all been fighting to save our club - for the future generations of Pars fans.
Nice one Lord Woolman - thank you.
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: MagicParMan
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:50
message to Masterton...
as simply as i could put it...
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Topic Originator: Dalgety_Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 18:28
Cannae believe nobody has been quoting my tweets on this thread! My updates live from court were definitely the highlight!
It's common knowledge that Lionel Messi kept a photo of Hamish French by his bedside as inspiration every morning!
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Topic Originator: Larbert_Par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:12
"My 4 year old came running through when I cheered (he's used to this from a Saturday) and said "did the Pars win?" (thinking there must be a game on today). To which I replied "yes son, they just won the biggest match they've ever played". "Cool" he said. My sentiments exactly."
It's posts like this that sum why we're all sharing immense joy and relief, and why everyone in Pars United, and every supporter, has fought so hard for our club over the last year or so.
I'd have been heartbroken if things hadn't gone our way, especially as the Pars is the biggest single thing that bonds my dad and I - it was unthinkable to me that if in the future I have a family I couldn't share that with them either.
Thank you from the bottom of this Par's heart to Pars United and every single fan of Dunfermline Athletic. I've been to watch the team home and away with my old man for over 20 years - here's to the next 20 and beyond!
Kincardine DASC
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:45
Brilliant! Thank you, MagicParsMan :)
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Topic Originator: R8V10
Date: Fri 11 Oct 21:48
HH i concur dont think this thread should be lost.
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Topic Originator: R8V10
Date: Fri 11 Oct 21:55
Agreed. I've moved it to the 'Sticky' forum.
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