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 Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 16:19

Cannot get the part 1 to work so have started a part 2

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 16:25

Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 12 Apr 14:10

Johnson and Sunak have both been issued with FPNs by the Met for attending parties during lockdown. Can any action be taken against Johnson for lying to Parliament?


I think that misleading or misspeaking or in Boris the Braves case lying to parliament should result in a resignation
Whether he will or not remains to be seen (the usual bluff and bluster)
Sunak is already a dead man walking

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 17:16

I can`t see Johnson resigning voluntarily. It`ll be up to the Tory MPs to kick him out but they`ll do whatever they think is best for their party, not for the country.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 17:44

For their jobs first wee eck then the Party then the Country :-((

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 17:51

Just seen this OMG .. What enhanced substance is this silly woman on ? :-

Junior minister Amanda Milling has tweeted her support for Boris Johnson.

"The PM won us a massive majority in 2019, the PM is the only person that got Brexit done," she says.

"The PM is the right person to lead the country and focus on getting on with the job of delivering for the British people and protecting Ukraine from the tyranny of Russia."







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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 18:05

BJ-lookalike MP Michael Fabricant claims the folk at the Downing St parties were only doing what NHS staff were doing with their workmates during lockdown - having a drink to relieve the stress they were under!

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 18:17

What a shower of arrogant, entitled and out of touch weasels.

Boris Johnson
Dominic Raab
Rishi Sunak
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Liz Truss
Priti Patel
Michael Gove

Can you list a more disliked line up ?




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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 19:19

Ach well there ye go He is sorry .. what a fekin car crash of an interview



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-61083566

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 19:50

I wonder which of his Russian buddies will pay his fine for him.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 20:57

Not sure if Boris has any Russian buddies, but he is very popular in Ukraine.
Unlike the German President who has been told he is not welcome. Something to do with his and Merkel’s energy policies ending up funding the Russian war machine.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 22:17

Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 12 Apr 20:57

Not sure if Boris has any Russian buddies, but he is very popular in Ukraine.
Unlike the German President who has been told he is not welcome. Something to do with his and Merkel’s energy policies ending up funding the Russian war machine.

Whitabootery’

He is also very popular in Saudi Arabia as he allows weapons made in U.K. to blow the arms and legs off innocent women and children in Yemen.

It does not detract from the fact that never in the history of the U.K. has there been such an arrogant,law breaking, bare faced liar in the post of PM.

I take it your post is a veiled defence of the arrogant, law breaking, bare faced liar ?

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Tue 12 Apr 22:37

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Parboiled, Tue 12 Apr 20:57

Not sure if Boris has any Russian buddies, but he is very popular in Ukraine.


 Lubov Chernukhin
Alexander Temerko
Evgeny Lebedev

I`m sure there`s others.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Wed 13 Apr 00:19

Does it not trouble Tory supporters that Johnson`s partying means he stuck two fingers up to those who wanted to be with their loved ones when they were dying from Covid, and that effectively he said, "ffuck you" to those who were dying and their loved ones?



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 13 Apr 11:11

His weekly audience with the Queen would be interesting!
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 13 Apr 12:47

What sort of apology was that?

That was a, I’m sorry I got caught and I don’t think I really did anything wrong anyway
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 13 Apr 19:02

He is not sorry in the slightest…..well he is sorry he got caught…

A despicable human being.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 13 Apr 23:08

They`re not sorry till they are caught, just imagine what is still hidden!

They don`t sleep straight in bed, wouldn`t trust them to run a bath!
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 03:43

Been fined £50. That`ll sting him. I had thought the Law were quite courageous in fining him, but by imposing a fine which is even less than a parking ticket, the message is clear - to those who died from Covid and were prevented from having their loved ones with them - "Here`s two fingers fae the Law and Ffuck the lot o` ye`s."



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 08:29

According to an insider there are 3 more fines heading his way

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 10:05

He`ll never go. Even if he does, anyone replacing him will be just as bad or worse.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 12:34

Not worse. Not even the Tory party contains anyone less fit to be PM than Mr Bully Boris.

Definition:

The meaning of BULLY is a blustering, browbeating person; especially : one who is habitually cruel, insulting, or threatening to others who are weaker.`*

Rings a bell.


(*source :- https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary)

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 16:56

It was a £100 fine but reduced to £50 for paying quickly. I know because Grant Shapps made told us so on BBC Breakfast as if it was something to be proud of




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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 14 Apr 23:46

Quote:

onandupthepars, Thu 14 Apr 12:34

Not worse. Not even the Tory party contains anyone less fit to be PM than Mr Bully Boris.

Definition:

The meaning of BULLY is a blustering, browbeating person; especially : one who is habitually cruel, insulting, or threatening to others who are weaker.`*

Rings a bell.


(*source :- https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary)


Nadine Dorries would be even worse. The ultimate "Karen" who thinks she`s never wrong.

Jacob Rees-Mogg would be less of an oaf but would probably pass a bill to bring back poor houses.

Liz Truss, Michael Gove, Priti Patel...I genuinely can`t remember there ever being such a vile group on individuals involved in the running of this country.

Right now the SNP could crash a Cal Mac ferry into Greenock Docks and still be considered a success in comparison to those idiots in Westminster.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 15 Apr 08:14

Quote:

parsfan, Tue 12 Apr 22:37

Quote:

Parboiled, Tue 12 Apr 20:57

Not sure if Boris has any Russian buddies, but he is very popular in Ukraine.


 Lubov Chernukhin
Alexander Temerko
Evgeny Lebedev

I`m sure there`s others.


Johnson and his tovarisch.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 17 Apr 12:32

From Aunty :-

Boris Johnson`s fine for breaching lockdown rules is the "most severe constitutional crisis involving a prime minister", a historian has said.

History of government expert Lord Hennessy told the BBC Mr Johnson had "broken the law", "misled Parliament" and "shredded the ministerial code."
Mr Johnson is the first serving PM to be sanctioned for breaking the law.

"The prime minister sealed his place in British history as the first lawbreaker to have occupied the premiership," Lord Hennessy wrote.

He said Mr Johnson had turned his position into "an adventure playground for his narcissistic vanity".

Lord Hennessy accused the prime minister of having "broken the law, misled Parliament and has in effect shredded the ministerial code" when he "should be the guardian of the code".

So why the hell is he still PM ??

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Sun 17 Apr 13:06

Our great leaderene seen in barber shop posing for official photo wearing mask.
Then posing for lots of selfies In same shop sans mask
Polis Alba do your job!

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 17 Apr 18:37

Are the Tories calling for her resignation?

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 17 Apr 19:27

Question is are the snp?

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 17 Apr 19:51

Not while there`s war in Ukraine. It would play into Putin`s hands. He`s already banned her from Russia.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 20 Apr 23:47

Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sun 17 Apr 13:06

Our great leaderene seen in barber shop posing for official photo wearing mask.
Then posing for lots of selfies In same shop sans mask
Polis Alba do your job.

So are you suggesting that forgetting to wear a mask for a minute is on a par with telling bare faced lies in WM , breaking the ministerial code and breaking the law on multiple occasions?

Thing is many of those criticising NS are the very same people who wanted her to stop the compulsory wearing of masks in public months ago, who argued against their effectiveness.

The vile woman who grassed on NS is the very same Tory councillor who made fun of NS miscarriage.

They really are utter scum the lot of them and anyone who even try’s to defend them by comparing NS to Boris is just as bad.

The opposition party leaders were all photographed recently at their manifesto launch without masks on……never heard a thing about it…….

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 21 Apr 16:04

Some good points, Desperado

The Tories trying to dismiss partygate are being hugely disrespectful to the people who suffered losses during covid.

Scumbags




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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 21 Apr 19:00

Saw JRM responding to Andrew Marr.saying he missed his dad`s funeral due to restrictions but Johnson and others were off having wee parties. His response was pretty much "we should`ve left the churches open in hindsight". Completely disregards that they broke their own rules. What he`s basically admitting is the rules went too far and that`s why THEY broke them. That`s just a further slap in the face of people who dutifully followed them.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 22 Apr 11:52

The consensus seems to be that Johnson is running out of road. Tory MPs are finally acknowledging what a lot of people knew years age - that he isn`t a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 4 May 20:49

From Aunty :-


UK PM Boris Johnson is to have an embankment named after him in the city of Vasylkiv, near the capital Kyiv.

The city`s mayor, Natalia Balasinovich, made the announcement on Facebook.

"Great news, friends!" she wrote.

"Our new embankment on the Stugna River ... will now have the name of a great friend of Ukraine: Prime Minister Boris Johnson."

The UK prime minister was the first among European leaders to provide full-scale military assistance to Ukraine, and "supported the aspirations of our country and our people to defeat the Russian invaders", she added.

"Thank you Boris!"

Last month the town of Fontanka, near Odesa, announced it would be naming a street after Johnson.

It came after his surprise trip to Kyiv to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, when the pair took a trip around the capital together on foot.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 5 May 10:42

Obviously believe the lies he tells them, we sussed him out a while ago!🤔🤬🤬🤬
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 15 May 20:34

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/russian-money-uk-tories.html
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 19 May 20:30

It looks like he`s landed on his feet again after the closure of the Met investigation into `partygate`. It`s funny how the emphasis is now on how many FPNs he received rather than whether he lied to the HoC about the incidence of parties, his attendance at them, the general culture, etc. That doesn`t seem to matter anymore.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 19 May 20:47

Because we allowed the narrative to change to being about a slice of cake and away from lying to parliament…

People are focusing on the actual discretion resulting in being fined by the police, and not the far greater issue
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 19 May 21:45

Sue Gray`s report may change the focus back to the ministerial code.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 19 May 22:29

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wee eck, Thu 19 May 21:45

Sue Gray`s report may change the focus back to the ministerial code.


It`ll be that redacted it will be meaningless!
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 19 May 22:42

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LochgellyAlbert, Thu 19 May 22:29

Quote:

wee eck, Thu 19 May 21:45

Sue Gray`s report may change the focus back to the ministerial code.


It`ll be that redacted it will be meaningless!


It`ll be Swinney that`ll be running a pen over it then.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 23 May 22:02

Will he resign now ?




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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 24 May 09:16

Doubt it, Tories can`t lie straight in a bed!🤬
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Tue 24 May 14:53

Does it surprise anyone to find out that the Met ran a corrupt enquiry into this?

The photos of the PM at a party for which he wasn`t fined clearly show that the Met didn`t do its job. Yet again.


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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 24 May 15:00

Sajid Javid`s brother in charge at the Met., what could go wrong?🤔😲
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 24 May 15:51

Hard to believe that there are still around 45% of people in Scotland happy to let these crooks run Scotland ,decide what`s good for us, decide how much pocket money we get, while deriding most of us most of the time.

Destroying our economy, overseeing exponential rises in poverty , food banks. Handing billions from our natural resources to companies that have links to the Tories instead of handing what`s ours back to the people or investing it as Norway does.

Rolling back devolution which was overwhelmingly voted for by the Scottish people...without consulting the Scottish people.

From potentially one of the richest countries in the world to within a few years a desperate, depressing backwater of Yookay. Welcome to Scotlandshire..

Utterly baffling.



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Tue 24 May 16:39

https://wingsoverscotland.com/firing-blanks/

Nothing worse than hanging around waiting on the starting gun getting fired.

At least we now know that indy2 is next year.
Glad we`ve resolved all the issues we failed to convince soft no`s last time round like currency and pensions etc.....
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 24 May 18:10

Quote:

Tenruh, Tue 24 May 16:39

https://wingsoverscotland.com/firing-blanks/

Nothing worse than hanging around waiting on the starting gun getting fired.

At least we now know that indy2 is next year.
Glad we`ve resolved all the issues we failed to convince soft no`s last time round like currency and pensions etc.....


This.

Can`t convince people without answers.

Amusingly, it`s potentially payback time in England as around 50% want independence for England. What currency will they use? 😉
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Tue 24 May 18:15

Quote:

jake89, Tue 24 May 18:10

Quote:

Tenruh, Tue 24 May 16:39

https://wingsoverscotland.com/firing-blanks/

Nothing worse than hanging around waiting on the starting gun getting fired.

At least we now know that indy2 is next year.
Glad we`ve resolved all the issues we failed to convince soft no`s last time round like currency and pensions etc.....


This.

Can`t convince people without answers.

Amusingly, it`s potentially payback time in England as around 50% want independence for England. What currency will they use? 😉


Probably shillings and ten Bob notes
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 24 May 19:38

Never got the issue with the currency…

we can use GBP if we want.

And if I’m the future the monetary policy of Bank of England doesn’t suit or policies then we change it or (preferably for me) join the EU and adopt the euro
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Tue 24 May 19:55

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DBP, Tue 24 May 19:38

Never got the issue with the currency…

we can use GBP if we want.

And if I’m the future the monetary policy of Bank of England doesn’t suit or policies then we change it or (preferably for me) join the EU and adopt the euro


If we use GBP we won`t have control of our interest rates .
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 24 May 20:18

…And I refer you to my last sentence
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 24 May 20:43

It`s pathetic the way the Tories have tried to trivialise Johnson`s behaviour over the course of `Partygate`. From outright denial, to `now is not the time`, `the public aren`t interested and knew he was a flawed character,` `let`s wait for the end of the Met inquiry/Sue Gray`s report`, etc. We even had Rees-Mogg saying the rules were too strict anyway as if some other body had imposed them on the country.

For the party of law and order which sees itself as the natural party of government they don`t seem to set much store by having a leader of integrity who doesn`t lie to parliament.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Tue 24 May 22:43

``We even had Rees-Mogg saying the rules were too strict anyway as if some other body had imposed them on the country.``

From Rees-Mogg’s perspective this is close to the truth. The ruling class has never been very keen on democracy and their fear of universal suffrage is well documented through history. Mob rule they called it just over a century back. Parliament to them is a necessary evil but they have the fallback of the House of Lords to protect their privilege when proposed laws affect their own interests. Their guide in these matters is the monarchy which is to all intents and purposes above the law, symbolised by the PM being summoned to Buckingham Palace every week to answer to the biggest landowner in the UK.

The police, who are charged to uphold the law, are aware that confronting the privilege of the ruling class is a passport to individual career destruction. Collectively, massive funding cuts can be imposed on the service if it does not acknowledge where real power lies. Hence Johnson’s confidence in stalling the Grey inquiry, confident that the Met would issue him a token fine and no more.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 25 May 06:49

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DBP, Tue 24 May 20:18

…And I refer you to my last sentence


And it may take 5 year`s to join the EU so what do we do in the mean time let England control our economy?
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 25 May 06:54

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sammer, Tue 24 May 22:43

``We even had Rees-Mogg saying the rules were too strict anyway as if some other body had imposed them on the country.``

From Rees-Mogg’s perspective this is close to the truth. The ruling class has never been very keen on democracy and their fear of universal suffrage is well documented through history. Mob rule they called it just over a century back. Parliament to them is a necessary evil but they have the fallback of the House of Lords to protect their privilege when proposed laws affect their own interests. Their guide in these matters is the monarchy which is to all intents and purposes above the law, symbolised by the PM being summoned to Buckingham Palace every week to answer to the biggest landowner in the UK.

The police, who are charged to uphold the law, are aware that confronting the privilege of the ruling class is a passport to individual career destruction. Collectively, massive funding cuts can be imposed on the service if it does not acknowledge where real power lies. Hence Johnson’s confidence in stalling the Grey inquiry, confident that the Met would issue him a token fine and no more.


You can read every move the Tories are going to make, The Grey report comes out and within the same 24 hrs there will be a big announcement to help the poor re raising costs.
Just like the Boris fine was announced during the Spring recession.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 25 May 07:03

https://www.facebook.com/100068879183392/posts/315017154137588/
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 25 May 08:57

Quote:

Tenruh, Wed 25 May 06:49

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DBP, Tue 24 May 20:18

…And I refer you to my last sentence


And it may take 5 year`s to join the EU so what do we do in the mean time let England control our economy?


If in the first 5 years we really can’t live with using the pound, then we can decide as a country to set up our own. Not sure how’s long that will take though either.

Either way I’m happy to use GBP as a transition, and then decide ourselves what we want to do.
If I’m not mistaken, after partition Ireland used GBP for years before it decided to create the punt

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 25 May 09:06

You can read every move Sturgeon is gonna make, and they’re all sideways. Or backwards like the ditched education attainment gap, the policy she asked to judged on. How about you’re crap at everything you touch hen?

Another prospectus for Indy out soon, annual event since getting stuffed eight years ago. Got to keep the gullible on board and £250k a year rolling in to the Murrell kitty.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 25 May 09:41

DBP, according to Emma Harper SNP we don’t need a currency we all use plastic.
Oh and you get a better exchange rate for your Scottish pound than English pound.
Nature abhors a vacuum according to the laws of physics, but the space between her lugs suggests otherwise

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 25 May 10:08

The Tories would love the deflection on here; classic tactic to take the heat off them.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 25 May 11:00

I suppose the beauty of a referendum is that if you genuinely believe that Scotland is unique among all other countries that it’s so unable to govern itself, then you can always vote no.

However, perhaps one benefit of gaining Indy is that if you genuinely believe the government of the day is unable to govern, then you can vote them out (unlike just now where, due to demographics, we get whatever England decides irrelevant of who or what we choose)
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 25 May 11:56

Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 25 May 09:06

You can read every move Sturgeon is gonna make, and they’re all sideways. Or backwards like the ditched education attainment gap, the policy she asked to judged on. How about you’re crap at everything you touch hen?

Another prospectus for Indy out soon, annual event since getting stuffed eight years ago. Got to keep the gullible on board and £250k a year rolling in to the Murrell kitty. <

Or keep the gullible on board by staying in the Union. Two party politics in the same tired old failing WM. Allowing a bunch of corrupt to the core Bullingdon boys to decide what`s good for us.......or doing things by ourselves, for ourselves like every other normal country in the world....what a novel idea eh ?

As long as we need answers to every question we will never be independent. How about getting answers to every question if we stay in the Union ?
Oh wait a minute we got those eight years ago and every one has been proved wrong.

Slovakia/Slovenia/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania all became independent fairly recently. Not one of them worried about what currency they were going to use or how to set up a central bank.........they just did it....in months.

All of them are doing quite nicely.

Scotland would be no different and we have far far more natural resources than probably all of them put together.

If our government was failing us we would kick them out. In the current system being part of the union our vote is basically neutered.

Why any self respecting so called proud Scot can settle for that is beyond my comprehension.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 25 May 13:42

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 25 May 14:11

Double post

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 25 May 16:13

I suspect that a number of Scottish folk are natural Tory voters, who can`t bring themselves to vote Tory for historical reasons, but are quite happy to be in the union because they still get the Tory government they subconsciously want without having to get their hands dirty personally.

A No vote is an acceptance that Scotland will be ruled by Tories for the majority of its existence.

Having said that, our aversion to voting Tory is fairly recent, starting not long before we acquired an aversion to voting labour.


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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 25 May 16:37

I suspect a lot of Lib Dem voters are closet Tories.

Back in the 50s you`d see plenty Tories in Scotland. I`ve no great issue with what they stand for but the current crop of Tory MPs are despicable IMO. Completely out of touch and horrid people.
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 25 May 23:23

I think a fair amount of SNP voters are closet Tories as well. They fear socialism so voting SNP is a safe bet since they are confident there will never be a vote for Independence. Status quo forever and a clear conscience.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 26 May 00:27

I don`t think the Tories have won a majority in any election in Scotland since 1955, long before the SNP came to the fore, so I can`t see the logic to suggest many have switched to the SNP. Some of the theories on here are as crazy as the ones that appear on the Football Forum.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 26 May 07:58

Although they`ve not been elected, they still had a fair chunk of the vote. All through until the 90s they had a 25-50% vote share. SNP voters came from somewhere and didn`t magically appear overnight.

Being honest, most people vote like they`re voting for their football team. They don`t know the policies or what they stand for. They know a few names, which is why the Murdoch media put so much focus on destroying the likes of Milliband.

I can`t remember the website, but there was one there that asked you questions then indicated how much of a Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem voter you were.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 26 May 11:27

No doubt there will be some floating voters who have moved from the Tories to the SNP but I can`t imagine many, if any, true-blue Tories will have. The main casualty of the rise of the SNP has been the Labour Party who became very complacent and many of their supporters were attracted to the SNP as they have always been left-of-centre in their policies.

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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Thu 26 May 12:15

Quote:

jake89, Thu 26 May 07:58

Being honest, most people vote like they`re voting for their football team. They don`t know the policies or what they stand for.


I think there`s also a contingent who just want to vote for the winner and will drift with popular opinion.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 26 May 12:30

I think there’s also a contingent who don’t really care about the minor differences between parties when there are such fundamental (constitutional) questions to sort out first.

I vote SNP because I want independence and they’re the party most likely to deliver that. I also think they are doing a decent job in the interim here in Scotland and certainly a lot better than our current and previous friends in WM.

I wouldn’t vote SNP in an independent Scotland, but right now I wouldn’t give up my dream of independence because another party promises to spend a bit more on one thing and a bit less somewhere else
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 26 May 19:47

Might argue that you`re more likely to get independence voting Tory 😂
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 27 May 19:42

Johnson has now rewritten parts of the Ministerial Code although anyone found guilty of misleading Parliament is still expected to resign.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 27 May 23:43

Easy to stay on top when you write the rules to the game.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 28 May 07:47

Seriously, how long can this corruption continue?
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 28 May 08:16

From the Guardian Wee Eck

How can he get away with this ??

The prime minister faced a barrage of criticism after he amended the rules on Friday to make clear that ministers will not always be expected to resign for breaching the code of conduct. Under new sanctions, they could apologise or temporarily lose their pay instead.

Johnson also blocked his independent ethics chief, Christopher Geidt, from gaining the power to launch his own investigations, and rewrote the foreword to the ministerial code, removing all references to honesty, integrity, transparency and accountability.

It comes as the PM faces an inquiry by the privileges committee into whether he misled parliament over lockdown parties in Downing Street – which could itself be a breach of the ministerial code.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 28 May 09:19

Anyone in doubt?

Just watch this!


https://youtu.be/nVZ3QwA5wy8
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 28 May 10:21

Scary stuff; that speech seemed to get very little publicity. I just saw a clip of it on the daily Politics show on BBC2. Most TV coverage on the news just shows sound-bites from the Commons rather than well-argued pieces like that one.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 29 May 18:57

We`re now considering returning to imperial measures, just to prove we`re different no doubt.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 29 May 19:02

It`s getting laughable now. Full on Little Englander. Not long before they`re insisting on having the national anthem played every morning and it being mandatory to stand for it.

This country is slowly but surely getting worryingly like a comedic version of 1984.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Sun 29 May 21:27

Imperial measures rule, and always has, when it comes to ordering at the butchers counter Everything is priced in metric but who the hell asks for 454g of mince or a quarter kilo of bacon?


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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Tue 31 May 08:42

He`d be long gone if we had a decent political system.

He got 43% of the vote and should have got 43% of the representation, leaving 57% to tell him to sling it.

Alternatively, an elected Head of State would have had the moral authority to remove him.

Don`t, as they say, blame the player, blame the game.


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 31 May 16:42

Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 29 May 18:57

We`re now considering returning to imperial measures, just to prove we`re different no doubt.

I`ve never used anything else wee eck

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 31 May 16:52

I’ll stick with base 10 please…

our whole numerical system is based on that as well and I can divide or multiply by 10 quite easily thanks
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 09:00

DBP - That might be your opinion, but it comes from a position of genetic privilege.

You have to think of the inbred little Englanders. When your mum is your Dad`s cousin and your gran won the Derby, counting money on your twelve fingers or weights on your sixteen toes is simple.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 09:34

I think many of us already use imperial in our everyday lives. When I think about how much I weight I don`t think of kilos I think in stones and pounds. Same goes for my height, feet and inches. And when I`m driving I look at the mph gauge rather the kmph gauge.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 09:53

But I think that’s only because that’s the general parlance of today… we talk about a pint of milk… I don’t know if I buy a pint or not but I know it’s the small one.

I wear size 9 shoes but I don’t know what that means other than that’s the size that fits and it’s what is understood in the shops… I’d be just as comfortable asking for a size 48 or 60 or whatever if that was understood (actually if that was the length of my get in cm then I would understand what that meant and it would be relatable).

Also a lot of folk, myself inclusive, because I cycle and run will use km and kilos where you may use miles and stones. Eg Park run is 5km - I know I weigh 68kg no idea what that is in pounds or stones.

On the driving thing… I go to Ireland a lot on the border, where it switches from mph to kmph and you naturally just switch with it no problem at all

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 10:32

DBP, on an entirely different subject, does your passport get stamped, when in the South?
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 10:43

Don’t need a passport to go to Ireland… it’s an agreed common travel area. Where I go anyway you wouldn’t realise you’ve crossed the border as you’d actually cross it twice walking down the high street!

My wife used to cross the border three times on her walk to primary school

Edited to say that if you take a ferry or drive from north to south then you don’t need a passport, but airlines seem to want a passport as proof of Identity. Even though it’s not required officially

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 14:00

Was going to drive down to County Kerry to visit wife`s relatives and have a Guinness or 3!

Good to know it doesn`t affect my 90 day Brexit allowance. 👍😎
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 14:06

Yeah if you’re in the north you’ll just drive down as if you were going from here to England…

you won’t need an international driving permit or anything, but you will probably need international cover on your insurance?

Found this online:
https://www.ireland.com/en-gb/help-and-advice/practical-information/brexit/

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 1 Jun 16:29

👍👍👍
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 2 Jun 12:24

The mix of metric and imperial in this country is a joke. So I put fuel in my car, which is measured in litres but then my fuel economy is measured in miles per gallon. I go into a supermarket and buy a can of beer, which is measured in millilitres then change my mind and go to the pub where it`s measured in pints. I buy 500g of mince to go home and make quarter pounders...
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 2 Jun 19:37

https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1532384556539584515?t=kmO6o5eExVipR1_IjKRqng&s=19
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Thu 2 Jun 21:27

I bought a pack of four pint size cans of Carlsberg Export this week. Perhaps Denmark has switched to imperial

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 08:22

Big vote to save Boris the Brave at 18.00 tonight

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 08:36

Quote:

Parboiled, Thu 2 Jun 21:27

I bought a pack of four pint size cans of Carlsberg Export this week. Perhaps Denmark has switched to imperial


Brewed in Northampton 🤦‍♂️
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Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 08:54

No surprise there, my summer easy drinking thirst quenchers Bud and more recently Corona are brewed in the UK. Many other brands I suspect.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 10:22

This is a pretty convenient time for Johnstone to face a no confidence vote imo.

I`d much rather it was held after the two upcoming bye elections, when I imagine more Blue Wall MPs will have gained a bit of fear for the future.

If I were a Tory MP I`d kill myself, but before I did that I would have withdrawn my letter until after the bye election.


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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 10:23

https://twitter.com/Jesse_Norman/status/1533699235417403393?s=20&t=4VNS_Jk_CcADG-FjgRYmgA[\url]

Not a happy chappie.

Will be sad to see Boreus go as he would have been the best recruitment Sargent for independence
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 10:43

Don’t think he’ll be going anytime soon… and even if he does, what will follow won’t be much better anyway
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 10:57

Well that`s another year of Johnson for everyone.

The Tories won`t get rid of him because they have no one to replace him with. He gutted the party in 2019 and filled it with flag-waving simpletons. He will be on the phone to them all today with promises of promotion to the secretary of state for imperial measures and they will all jump in line.

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 11:41

I think he will survive because when push comes to shove I don`t think enough Tories will have the gumption to get rid of him.

They will after all still be gushing at the very British festival that has been taking place.

Britnat fever will still be engulfing them and to get rid of a PM regardless of how incompetent, regardless of his behaviour and his lack of integrity/moral compass, they wont push him.....yet.

Another year of this buffoon when he will essentially be bullet proof will see the UK lurching further to the right, more draconian laws pushed through.

There is an upside to the above though and that is more and more Scots who are sitting on the constitutional fence will come off on the side of independence.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 11:44

Think that they`ll struggle to get rid of him, if they don`t the downward spiral will continue, general strikes and protests, which hopefully will end with their total extinction!

As was said previously, best thing for Scottish Independence!🤔🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 11:55

Fellas the independence push is done for the rest of the decade. To be resumed in 2030 if conditions are favourable.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 12:42

Quote:

The One Who Knocks, Mon 6 Jun 11:55

Fellas the independence push is done for the rest of the decade. To be resumed in 2030 if conditions are favourable.


Don`t think so, next year we`ve got a gold standard referendum to look forward to.
To much work done to abandon it now.

What`s brought this on TOWK ?
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 12:54

Johnson will most likely survive the vote of no confidence but that was not enough to sustain Theresa May for long back in 2018. Margaret Thatcher comfortably saw off a leadership challenge from Michael Heseltine but resigned very soon after in 1990.

The mood seems to have shifted and not just about what is called Partygate. The UK public is being faced with a cut in living standards due to rising fuel and food prices that will require considerable sacrifice; Johnson is obviously unsuited by dint of his character to oversee this process. These shortages and the situation in Ukraine have also made the UK’s anti-EU rhetoric look outdated. Hard Brexit has had its day in the sun. The future looks like it will bring closer UK ties with the EU and a sensible resolution to the Northern Ireland question.

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Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 13:03

That “gold standard” referendum is not in the gift of Holyrood to hold.

It’s more like rusty tin can kicked down the road yet again standard



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 13:18

I will say this though, Sturgeon is a very savvy operator who will exploit this Tory shambles to the full. Started doing so already probably.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 13:21

Quote:

Parboiled, Mon 6 Jun 13:18

I will say this though, Sturgeon is a very savvy operator who will exploit this Tory shambles to the full. Started doing so already probably.


You give her more credit than I do .
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 14:05

Oh, and the SNP’s discipline is exceptional.

Like the Tiller Girls, whose poster adorns Buspasspar’s potting shed, never a foot out of step..

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 16:19

It`s thought that BJ will go for a snap election if he looses the vote!

Meanwhile BBC news find people in the North of England that love him🤔😲💩💩💩
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 16:19

So how is Sturgeon taking advantage? Pushing for independence?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 17:23

6pm on the 6th June.....666......seems apt!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 17:37

Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 6 Jun 14:05

Oh, and the SNP’s discipline is exceptional.

Like the Tiller Girls, whose poster adorns Buspasspar’s potting shed, never a foot out of step..

Aye the tiller girls parboiled them were the days ... Thats me 3rd from the left

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQ17OZ4mwU



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 21:03

148 votes against. Not enough to remove him, but enough to tear his party apart imo


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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 21:18

He`s finished. Tories win the next General Election.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 22:04

Who is going to be the next PM, O wise one?

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 22:15

Can someone take out that absolute bell-end who just shouts loads of stuff in Parliament Square?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 23:05

Doesn`t matter Wee Eck. All the bad stuff will get pinned on Johnson and the slate gets wiped clean (along with a couple of ministers getting punted). Whoever takes over, and I wouldn`t bet against Truss, gets a clear run at Starmer and another term.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 6 Jun 23:23

It`ll be night of the long knives with DROSS probably first on the list!
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 01:21

Sums up the Tory party.

A leader with no shame.

94 rebels with no balls to put in a letter of no confidence.

I’ve never before in my life hated a party so much. Full of absolute wasters




It's bloody tough being a legend
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 08:19

This ^^^^^^^^

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 12:47

It`s not just the Tories tbh. I say it a lot that I`m not an SNP fanboy, but Mairhi Black did a good job of shaming these wasters. The country is failing and they`re too busy having parties and doing dodgy deals. It said it all when Nadine Dorries told the news that ministers should think about the donors. That is scandalous! So she`s openly admitting they make decisions based on a rich few rather than represent their constituents? It`s absolutely disgusting.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 13:09

That`s always been the Tory philosophy. They look after the folk who are best equipped to look after themselves. Everybody else can sink or swim. I must say they`ve excelled themselves with Johnson though, someone who obviously doesn`t have the basic honesty or integrity to be Prime Minister. He`s not going to suddenly discover these qualities now.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 7 Jun 13:34

They are indeed absolute scum. Very rich powerful scum though.

It should be a no brainer.

Scotland needs to rid itself of this vermin and the only way is independence.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 12:37

As petrol begins to hit £2.00 a litre, remember 86p of that goes to the Government in VAT and Duty!
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 13:22

we are paying for their furlough schemes this way

That 5p cut was really a pisstake

BTW, I thought the rate was 55%?



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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Thu 9 Jun 14:53

The Johnson Tory government has overseen the biggest splurge in spending since the Second World War and the tax take is the highest since Clement Atlee`s Labour government of the late 1940s. But that`s what we want isn`t it? High tax high spend.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 16:43

Interesting :-


Fuel duties are levied on purchases of petrol, diesel and a variety of other fuels. They represent a significant source of revenue for government. In 2022-23, we expect fuel duties to raise £26.2 billion. That would represent 2.7 per cent of all receipts, and is equivalent to around £930 per household and 1.0 per cent of national income.

Fuel duty is levied per unit of fuel purchased and is included in the price paid for petrol, diesel and other fuels used in vehicles or for heating. The rate depends on the type of fuel:

The headline rate on standard petrol and diesel is 52.95 pence per litre, it has been frozen since 2011-12 and it reflects a temporary 5 pence cut in 2022-23. This also applies to biodiesel and bioethanol;


VAT is applied after fuel duty, so, for example, the pump price of a litre of petrol currently reflects the pre-tax price plus 52.95p for fuel duty plus 20 per cent VAT on the pre-tax price and a further 10.59p for VAT at 20 per cent on fuel duty.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 17:28

I`m surprised it`s possible to apply tax on another tax.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 18:16

Same here wee eck .. still trying to work it out

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 20:22

I suppose tax on top of another tax happens a lot but you don`t really notice it. When imported goods are sold in shops I suppose the base price (before VAT) already includes any import taxes.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sun 12 Jun 21:28

Quote:

aaaaaaaaaargh, Sun 12 Jun 20:22

I suppose tax on top of another tax happens a lot but you don`t really notice it. When imported goods are sold in shops I suppose the base price (before VAT) already includes any import taxes.


Yes the tax is added but a lot of people don`t realise if its over 100 years old your only required is to pay 5% VAT but ebay automatically charge 20% VAT through their shipping programme.

On top of that VAT is also added to the shipping cost.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 10:47

Story been pulled from electronic versions of papers about Johnson trying to get his then mistress (now wife) a £100k job with him. All whilst his wife was battling cancer.

What-a-guy.
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 12:03

He seems to be more popular in Ukraine than in UK.

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 13:11

Safer in Ukraine than in UK!

It`s OK though we might get Eurovision song contest!🤮💩
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 19 Jun 17:39

Injunction out to stop the story of BJ offering Carrie a job in Foreign Office @£100K a year whilst she was his mistress.

Meanwhile his wife was undergoing cancer treatment!

A lovely man🤔🤬🥳💩
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 24 Jun 13:36

From Aunty :-

The UK`s top civil servant has admitted having an "informal conversation" about potential roles for the PM`s wife with a royal charity, after being prompted by a former Downing Street colleague.

But Simon Case said he had not recommended that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge`s Royal Foundation give Carrie Johnson a position.

There had been "no improper conduct" on his part, he added.

However, Labour said the PM had "serious questions" to answer.

In her letter asking Mr Case what had happened, the party`s deputy leader, Angela Rayner, said Boris Johnson had to address claims of "impropriety and conflict of interest".

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 24 Jun 17:34

The nets closing in!🤔👍

https://goodlawproject.org/news/ministers-vip-test-trace-contracts/
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 29 Jun 15:50

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ipswichpar, Mon 6 Jun 22:15

Can someone take out that absolute bell-end who just shouts loads of stuff in Parliament Square?


Well Steve Bray is up in court soon, because of the new demonstration laws that came into force this week.

Strange they heard him but couldn`t hear the parties in Downing Street!🤔😎🤬
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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 29 Jun 21:51

Private Eye have divulged the story of Carrie, which the times dropped.

Apparently BJ was caught having a BJ on a sofa in Westminster, from CJ when an MP walked in on them.

The said MP might have received a knighthood for his discovery, no names, no packdrill, but GW is being mentioned.😲🤮🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣

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 Re: Boris the Brave Part 2
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 1 Jul 11:11

Canadian hairdresser the next scandal????
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